fist lubricante substitude

[slavelucy]

btw what ment ..they ky

KY jelly is a water based, water soluble (condom compatible) lubricant which is generally fairly long lasting. You do say you've tried water based tho, so it may not be the ideal choice, it is supposed to be pretty good, you may just need to re-apply it more, especially if you're trying fisting.

As for oil being dangerous, it should be ok, it usually has natural ingedients, but you should perhaps consider at least doing a bit of a skin test before you use a load of the stuff in sensitive areas.

HTH

sl

[mythicat]

First of all, let me confess that I hate Hate HATE KY Jelly. I hate the smell. I hate the taste. I hate the texture. And it reminds me of getting my annual pap smear. Yuk! And don't anyone try to argue that it's tasteless and odorless...cus it's not. You're the same lunatics who claim water is tasteless and odorless, and you're wrong about that too, and I'm not listening!

*sticks her fingers in her ears* la la la la la


That said *ahem*, let me CONDITIONALLY suggest something that isn't water-based for anal. An oil, silicone, or petroleum based lube will generally last longer and provide better protection to delicate tissues.

HOWEVER...

1.) You must not use petroleum or mineral oil based lubes with a condom. This includes things like baby oil and Vaseline. They will break down the latex in the condom and that's bad...very bad.

2.) I recently read that Vaseline could have the potential to hang around inside the colon for awhile encouraging bacterial growth. I haven't tried to substantiate this claim yet, so I don't know if it's true. But I figured I should mention it anyway as a possible risk. If you don't use it often, and get some yogurt and enough insoluble fiber in your diet, I wouldn't worry about it. I personally fall into that category and have never had any problems with Vaseline at all over many years.

I'd also like to warn against using any lube that contains a numbing agent. You generally shouldn't use them for anal anyway, but with fisting it becomes crucial. The person on the receiving end needs to be able to clearly judge if/how much pain or tearing is occurring.

You might also want to go ahead and splurge for a good lube that's specifically designed for anal lubrication at least the first time you try fisting your sub. After all, this is a special occasion...and isn't he worth it?!?

I know this is one time I wouldn't want my top to be stingy! lol

Ok, very long preachy post finished now. *curtsies and goes back to her seat*

[Mobius]

Not being an expert in fisting. But I have read that Crisco works but is rather discusting. It is a lard based baking stuff with the consistance of Grease. I know that back in the 70's thats what Fisters would use.

Yuk!

Wasnt there a scene in te "last tango in Paris" concerning A large amount of Butter.

Dont remember what they used it for.

[Lord Douche]

2.) I recently read that Vaseline could have the potential to hang around inside the colon for awhile encouraging bacterial growth. I haven't tried to substantiate this claim yet, so I don't know if it's true. But I figured I should mention it anyway as a possible risk. If you don't use it often, and get some yogurt and enough insoluble fiber in your diet, I wouldn't worry about it. I personally fall into that category and have never had any problems with Vaseline at all over many years.

I thought Vaseline was a petroleum-based product, actually. In my totally non-medical opinion, wouldn't bacteria hate anything based upon petroleum?
LD

[mythicat]

Yup, it's a petroleum product. "White Petrolatum, USP"

Never heard about buggies not liking petroleum... In fact since petroleum is just really really old plant and animal matter I would assume that it contains some sort of bacteria.

Anyone here with a degree in earth sciences??

[Qun`yem]

I wanna thank all who have replied ...and the once who still might reply

I found some use full info here ..and other places
We will make the first time memorable
thanks again A/all

[albear]

This is how I understand the whole Vaseline/bacteria thing (in a semi-medical opinion):

Petroleum based products such as Vaseline should be avoided as a lubricant, not only because they deteriorate the condom, but also because they are anhydrous, meaning they contain no water. Anhydrous products can seal in potentially harmful bacteria causing infection and owies (okay, owies isn't a medical term).

Thats just how I nut it out anywho

[mythicat]

My first reaction to that was "What about antibacterial ointments?", so I went and checked...and at least Bacitracin Ointment is made up of Bacitracin, light mineral oil, and white petrolatum (aka Vasoline).

Sooo...not sure about the anhydrous argument, unless the antibiotic present in the ointment works to kill off the sealed-in buggies. (okay, buggies isn't a medical term either. hehe)

Which now has me wondering if antibiotic ointment would make a good lube or would it throw off the buggie balance 'down there'?