Quote Originally Posted by TomOfSweden View Post
Good. I don't want you to feel stupid. My goal is to understand you by testing your arguments. With any luck we'll both learn something
Indeed! And I forgot I had written that -- by the end of the post, I no longer felt stupid. I seem to be getting better/more comfortable with this kind of conversation. And that's definitely a good thing.

This is a bit confusing. No, you can't explain love to somebody who hasn't felt it before. You, (or me) have no idea if the way you experience love is the same as for other people. So far I'm all with you with seperate realities. This is all pretty basic stuff which I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone who doesn't agree with. But then you go into particle of light being at different places depending on who looks. Light is energy. Energy behaves the way energy does. No mind control in the world can change that. You do agree with that one right? physics
I'm not sure I agree on that. The experiment was one of quantum physics, and I learned about it in What the bleep do we know?! The premise of the movie/documentary is that we, as Observers, are in ultimate control of our reality, and that the reason we have a more fixed view of reality is that we don't believe other things are possible. I'm not sure I agree with that, either.

Ok, so you're a pantheist. ie we are god. So where does the supernatural come into the picture? It doesn't sound like you believe in the supernatural at all. You sound like more like an atheist in denial.
Ha ha! Good question. And you're right - I don't believe in the supernatural. I believe in a natural reality that has not been discovered or accepted by those who only look to the physical world. I think there are deities and spirits, just as I think there are plants and animals. That is, as I said, they are as differentiated from each other as we are, but do not exist, except in a few situations (possession being one), in the physical world, though they may affect it at times. Again, I believe this because of things I have experienced through my emotions and senses. An atheist, I assume, would not believe in deities or spirits of any kind, whether they are called natural or supernatural.