Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Russell View Post
okay, I will throw in my 2 cents on this.

Most people accept and recognize 3 levels of submissive and Dominants

if all you do is scene or play without any further comitment to each other then they are bottom and Top.

If there is a further comitment to each other beyond the scene or play then they are sub and Dom

If there is a long term wide ranging comitment to each other where the Dom has the last word in all things and the submissive can't bear the thought of NOT BEING OWNED then they are slave and Master.
These definitions make sense, which is more than I can say for most people's definitions of the terms. But they're quite different from everything else I've ever heard about the difference between slaves and submissives.