mkemse I agree partially and I think you actually found the point. They are both real but also very different. F2F also differs in 2 many ways, those that use it as sex play and those that live it.

I have found that F2F is not just my strong suit it is the only way for me to live and enjoy the life. In my old age I guess I am over just playing too.

Those that find what they need in any of these are to be congratulated each takes a certain amount of work to do well.