Quote Originally Posted by MasterStone View Post
we are dealing with all the freedoms we have in our country we do have several religons in our country but it was founded a christian country.We have the freedom to choose our leaders even though the choices we have often really suck.the women here have the right to vote the right to work the right to choose who they marry.This frightens the middle eastren countries the most not so much the people its their leaders.If the people of these countries had the freedom we have the leaders they would loose all the power they have.They use their religon to help keep the people down especially the women they are kept uneducated have no rights no freedom of choice treated like property.I for one find this aweful but its not my problem or the USA's problem one day these countries will address these problems or not it will take a revolution on the peoples part to fix them not an invasion by another country to fix it.
How do you know western freedoms and freedom of religion "frightens the middle eastren countries"? Because Bush told you or what? I've heard it enough in US nationalistic propaganda. I've just never heard it from any Arabs.

Turkey is a middle-eastern muslim country with freedom of religion. They've had freedom of religion for 500 years. That's well before any western country had it or the European enlightenment. So much for western greatness and superior progressivness. Constantinoples/Istanbuls churches and synagogues stood under the Sultans personal protection.

I don't think the problem is Islam in the middle-east, but that fascist govornements, (Saudi-Arbia, Iran, Syria, Libya etc). They are hiding behind Islam to hide the fact that they are classical fascist states. If it wouldn't be Islam, it'd be something else. Off-course a fascist govornement is afraid of political freedoms. They would lose their power. I'm 100% certain that the people not in power in the middle-east aren't against political or personal freedoms. Who would be?