How much the mid east loves us

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Yeeaa....1 down, 5 to go, breaking from my voluntary insanity to come here.

Yes they hate or religous freedom the most it is every muslims job to covert us make us their slaves or simply just kill us.Most people do not understand Islam,or want to in Islam there are 3 houses the house of Islam saved for the muslims of course,The house of treaty,and the house of war.Here in the USA we are christians so we do not fall into the house of Islam nor do we have a treaty with them so there is only one thing left the house of war.This thread will probably start getting flamed and heated so keep in mind we are having a discussion not a who's right or wrong.

Wrong. There is no such thing as three houses in Islam, (at least in Sunnism and Shiasm). It is a duty for Muslims to inform others of Islam, but not to force it down someone's throat, and definitely not to kill non-Muslims if they disagree. Islam recognizes Christians and Jews as people of the book (Religions extremely close in idealogy and history). Muslims, albeit restrictively, are allowed to marry Christians and Jews. For years after Islam came to being, there were people from different religions living under the same empire. Only after Septerber 11, 2001, did the world really pay attention to the Middle East apart from oil.

Now I'm not saying everything is fine over there, or even close to it, but people from all religions live there, including Jews. Some countries over there even have a national holiday on Christmas. People over there don't care about other religions, they care about the fact that in their eyes, Arabs are being mistreated in Arabian lands. That the West pushes forward to 'invade' them for their oil, and then leave them dry.

A member of islam can lie to his wife anyone he is doing buisness with and especially the enemy it is not a sin.I will say its not so much the common everyday muslim you have to worry about like with all religons its the extremests the trouble is its the extremests that are incharge of these middle eastren countries.

Wrong again, lying for a Muslim is a sin, period. There are no if, ands or buts. It is as bad to lie, as it is to commit adultry. Islam follows the 10 commandments including the famous - "Thou shall not lie".


Now, I think that even if Iraq did have WMDs, USUK shouldn't have gone in that quickly. Saddam was a tyrant who knew too well how to rule his country with an iron grip. If US looked to the north and saw the Turk/Kurdish strife, or the East, and realised that another member of the 'Axis of Evil' with the largest Shia population bordered Iraq, or realised that the centeral Iraq consisted with a ruling minority that would lose power soon to those they have been oppressing for years, it may have paused for a moment to think of a possibility of a civil war. Weeks after entering Iraq, the so-called Mission was Accomplished. But look, years and thousands of Iraqis/Americans/British lives later, you have a country that is more dangerous then ever, a hotbed for terrorists, and no end in sight for the disastor Jon Stewart so rightly calls Messopotamia.

It is right for stronger/richer countries to help out poorer ones, especially ones in turmoil. But how an administration can plan a war and a country rebuilding efforts, right after leading another war in Afganistan, and dealing with the recent recession, and the normal stuff within America all in 18 months is beyond me.