vegetarian vs BDSM

[AndrewBlack]

Actually I've got plenty of leather ..ahem.

I know what you're saying, I remember a previous post, probably yours, saying the same about punk rock and how 'real' punks look down on MTV 'punks'...etc... ( To my mind a qualitative difference does exist here, there is after all nothing punk about MTV, in fact it pretty much antithesises the whole DIY ethic but that's another debate... )

I've not encountered any 'I'm more hardcore than you are and therefore I'm better' shite amongst my vegetarian/vegan friends, although people will discuss issues I don't think they attach a value judgement, that may just be my experience though.

My communication with the BDSM 'community' is pretty much confined to these pages and I'm happy to say that I thankfully haven't seen any evidence of these prejudices here. Is that your experience of another BDSM community?

[vistana]

I love the analogy, second one I've come across on these boards today. IT does seem to fit quite well
But what about 'fruitarians'? They only eat things that don't kill the plant the come from (ie. pretty much just fruit) Can we work them into your scale?

(I hope I used the right word there...not really sure)

[midnightsky]

raw foodies is what they are called where i live. id bet they be the people not just living the lifestyle, but more into longterm bondage, etc.

I never did get ppl who ate just no red meat calling themselves vegetarian, though I see that a *lot*. Ussually when i think vegetarian i think a lacto- ovo- vegetarian- though that maybe be just cause thats what i am

[Mobius]

My little brother is one of the fake vegitarians. It works for him. only skiny beale in the family. (black sheep, no not realy) But he makes a big show of not eating read meat or any thing with a face. But he will down eggs salmon anyingthing fish based mcdonalds french fries.

But trie to give him a cheese burger and he goes running.

[ValKyrie]

I understand what you are saying, Mobius. It is a great analogy.

BDSM is what we each make of it for ourselves. As long as we are true to ourselves, then our particular interpretation of the lifestyle is "real."

For some, reading "The Story Of O" and waving a banner that says, "I am a Dominant like Sir Stephen" is enough for them. I can choose whether or not to engage and will refrain from voicing an opinion.

If it works for them, who am I to judge?

[AndrewBlack]

Met a guy who's into observing birds ( the tweet tweet kind ) today and apparently;

The Bird Watcher - The lowest of the low, scorned upon by those who really know what they're doing. Wear their binoculars with the lens covers on..pah...amateurs

Birders - Not obsessive mind, but know what they're doing and know a fair bit about the game. Not obsessive like the -

Twitchers - These guys will travel hundreds of miles to get a glimpse of a rare bird

Ornithologists - The Pros. Expert biologist.

I stopped short of directing him to this thread or talking about the difference between 24/7ers and kinksters though

[Eraser]

I'm add this analogy to my list of lecture notes... need to come up with better BDSM calcification. I hate to use the words "true" and "real" describing anything BDSM. hmm lets call the fruity people Gorean