Quote Originally Posted by slavelucy
i was merely implying that the analogy was a weak one
actually the analogy is a fundemental of adolecent psychology.

Quote Originally Posted by slavelucy
because in a Ds relationship, the training kinda IS a big part of the relationship and i don't think the two are all that comparable.
yes training is a big part of the relationship. But there are smaller portions of a D\s relationship that don't need to be experianced with the "one"

Quote Originally Posted by slavelucy
If you were talking about conversing with other dominants, getting to know more about the lifestyle etc, then i would whole heartedly agree that it's only through knowing other dominants and/or submissive that one comes to realise how individual a Ds relationship is...but you wern't talking about merely conversing with other people, you were talking specifically about training.
I think the big differance here is you are monogomous and I am polyamorus. I do agree with you that just because a sub is a sub she should be listening to ever guy that comes along. I do thing in a D\s social setting respect should be kept, as you are a representation of your owner. If you are rude etc then
that reflects negativly on your owner. Now if your owner dislikes the person I say be as much of a bitch as you want.


Quote Originally Posted by slavelucy
inherantly means that you're not having a Ds relationship with them, you're training them.
this is splitting hairs to me. I'm not having a D\s relationship in the Master slave they are owned by me sense your correct.

Quote Originally Posted by slavelucy
where we differ...the one thing i dislike and which hugely turns me off (in the broadest sense) about BDSM, is the notion that i should submit to anyone other than my own Dom...
additionally I have no problem with one of my girls scene with another Dom but though he may be the physicality behind the actions, her submission is still to me and my desires. I directed her to do so hence that is why. This entire concept of doing as any Dom says is an IRCism or online thing. Even if you look back to Old guard. You pay respect but you do not follow the commands of another Master unless your own Master has instructed you to do so.

I really don't think were that far off base of each other, as I do view the trainer/charge relationship different then I view the Master/slave relationship. But I Do think many new people learn some good things from trainers that prepare them for better relationships.