well since this is getting lengthy and I obviously need to be more clear. I will make a few more broad general statements to explain what I meant. The point of my post was not if a person should/could be trained separate from there relationship with there Dom.

My point was that there many sub out there that ask for training including a number of them asking for formal training, not ownership not a Master but just training. Don't look at it as training so much as just experience. If your looking for a temporary Dom to teach you a few things or just to play and fun don't call it training. Training has a goal and a purpose normally inclined to either a specific sub-culture (gorean) or a particular fetish (pony play) and of course just a particular Dom's personal desires.

Training outside of an owner based relationship to me is little more then experiencing particular types of play and finding out what you like and don't like.

I also get asked alot by Dom's for a Formal training methods, like an outline or a document or books etc. There isn't one, there isn't one method. The method needs to be your own and match that of your sub and your desires and goals. Training is a method and a system to get certain responses and can have deep rooted psychological methods that can produce dramatic results, but the methods are particular to you and yours.


As a Dom learn your tools well, understand and be careful with them. Learn how they feel, how your sub reacts to them, how hard and how soft to use them. Learn the physical ramifications of different types of play, like tissue damage from leaving rope on to long, or damaging the breast from hitting them to hard.


Last thing, couple people ask me about the testical comment its from Butchmann/Old Guard "Formal" training:

Greeting slave brothers. Other slave brothers may be greeted after all have finished presenting . A slave should greet slave brothers at Butchmann's , at least when first seeing them each day, by hugging them with the left hand around the back and the right hand cupping the other slave's balls. This may be modified if one or the other is in restraints.