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  1. #31
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    Thank you all for your kind words and support. It shows how much we, here, care for each other.

    As for Whipit, well I’ve asked very politely for you to apologies to my wife and I or not to post at all. So far neither has happened, therefore I have come to the conclusion that either you are a very young person or one who is thick headed or doesn’t have the ethical knowledge to know right from wrong.

    Like BDSM_Tourguide said, if my wife enjoys what I’m doing then it’s none of your business and you better butt out.

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    Not to beat a dead horse...

    ... but he's already said his relatinship with his wife, as well as the activities in which they engage, ar consentual. So, what's the issue?
    It's in the blood...

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    WOW

    Bsm, I sure hope you intend to keep us filled in with how the training is going.

    I know my own Master has done a wonderful job of training me to be what I am.

    Your wife has indeed given you a wonderful gift. Cherish it and her as it appears you already do, and please keep us informed.



    veru skjava

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    What She Said

    I find great irony in Whipit's most recent opening line, "Each to their own, i say."

    It reminds me of liberals who say that they support people's right to dissent...as long as they don't dissent with the liberal agenda!

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    Re: What She Said

    Atta boy Curtis!

    Originally posted by Curtis
    I find great irony in Whipit's most recent opening line, "Each to their own, i say."

    It reminds me of liberals who say that they support people's right to dissent...as long as they don't dissent with the liberal agenda!

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    Re: What She Said

    Originally posted by Curtis
    I find great irony in Whipit's most recent opening line, "Each to their own, i say."

    It reminds me of liberals who say that they support people's right to dissent...as long as they don't dissent with the liberal agenda!
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    If it weren't for liberals, Curtis, havens from the humdrum world like this could not exist. It is liberals who have gone to bat for your sexual and reproductive freedom; it is conservatives who want to fit us all into the same 'moral' box.


    Enjoy your sabbatical, and look forward to seeing you in October!


    Boccaccio

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    Conservative vs. Liberal

    That's an interesting point of view. My impression is that it's the conservatives who are keeping the internet free (for expression) and untaxed. Conservatives, you see, adore free trade and promoting commerce (hence the prohibition on taxes). At the same time, they support the first amendment almost as vociferously as they do the second, albeit primarily because the first deals with freedom of religion, but they also support freedom of the press, freedom to assemble and (to a MUCH lesser extent) freedom of speech.

    I know, there's that whole Dixie Chicks flap and the burning the flag thing but, on the whole, liberals are much more prone to start screaming,"Hate speech!" and (religious fundamentalists aside) to call for censorship. Liberals invented political correctness (which, thank god, seems to have died a well-deserved death), which was nothing but an insidious form of censorship.

    By the way, I'm an ACLU supporter (though sometimes they drive me crazy).

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    Odd, I seem to see rocks in your hands WhipIt.

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    Originally posted by Whipit
    yes it is liberals like me who give you this questionable freedom
    to do these "things" that some people do. I would think people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones
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    Sorry, but it's "liberals like you" who give liberals like me a bad name; in fact, your posts here (condemning the consensual sexual behavior of adults) are as far from the spirit of liberalism as Christian (or Islamic) fundamentalism.




    Curtis -- conservatives always say they want small government --so that they are free to make money unfettered by governmental regulation or interference.

    Except in the matter of personal behavior.

    Personally, I'd rather have the government regulating the airlines, the utilities, and occupational safety and health and suchlike than regulating what I can read, see, and do in the company of other adults.

    GB

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    Originally posted by bbeale7
    Has to be a Canadian (little America)
    No, I'm as American as apple pie.

    And I think that calling Canada 'Little America' does an injustice to our friends to the north. For one thing thing Canada is much larger than the US. For another, it has its own history, its own culture, its own place in the world.

    But if contributions to this forum are any indication, the Maple Leafs sure are a kinky lot! (The percentage of Canadian posts to American posts relative to the populations of the two countries seems remarkably high)

    Do you know how Canadians spell 'Canada'?

    C - eh? N- eh? D - eh?

    Boccaccio

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    I am offended

    Originally posted by bbeale7
    Has to be a Canadian (little America)
    Mr. Beale,

    As a Canadian, I take exception to your comment that Canada is “little America”. That is akin to calling The Netherlands “Little Germany” because they share a common border and similar language.
    Canada and the United States are very different countries, just as the Netherlands and Germany are different.

    We have a bilingual government, with two official languages. We have deep roots in France and England. We follow British parliamentary system and British common law principles. Ours is a nation founded on the principals of “order and good government”, a federation of provinces and territories who have joined together to share in mutual beneficial programs.

    Canadian standards and values are not the same as those of our neighbours to the south. Ours is a multicultural society, as opposed to the melting pot. We have free universal medical service from cradle to grave. We do not believe the average person has a right to bear arms, and in fact, deplore violence and the use of force. We do not have the death penalty, anywhere. We have a single criminal code which applies across the entire nation – in fact, those powers not specifically designated to the provinces are automatically ceded back to the federal government, which is the opposite of the American system.

    Our Prime Minister (not president) is elected from within his own political party, which must win a majority of representation across the entire country. This is the same in England and other countries which follow the British model. The situation where a president can have 1,000,000 fewer votes than his rival but be declared the winner because he won a tiny poll in a single area, cannot happen in our system.

    Canada stands proud for never having been involved in an act of aggression against any country in the world. Canada stands proud for its history of defending the rights of weaker nations and peoples and for its peacekeeping efforts throughout the past 100 years. Canadian troops lay dead on the beaches of Europe and starved in prison camps in Asia years before the United States government became involved in a war against true oppressors.

    Canada has lobbied for world peace through the United Nations, through the international agreement banning land mines (not signed by the US), through the World Court (not signed by the US) and through countless other initiatives not supported by “The land of the free and brave”.

    Recently, Canadians have taken a lot of abuse from our neighbours to the south because we did not support an invasion of Iraq. This offends me. We are a sovereign nation, as Boccaccio points out, and have the right to make our own decisions.

    Do not preach of American culture and how we want to be like you. Mr. Beale, the world does not hold Americans in the esteem that you think. Why else would American students traveling in Europe place red maple leafs on their knapsacks?

    Think of the hypocrisy in watching American television: many programs have Canadian writers, producers and actors, the cameras used are made in Japan and Asia, and you are most likely watching a set manufactured by a Japanese owned company in Singapore or China.

    Even this webiste is replete with Canadian writers, and I notice that your BDSM Tourguide hails from Alberta, not Alabama.

    Do your homework, Mr. Beale, and learn about your neighbours to the north. Discover our history, our culture, and our contributions to the world, and consider that we have done these things with a population one-tenth the size of your own.
    We are not “little Americans”, and by the grace of God, we never will be!

    Fox - a very proud Canadian living in the True North Strong and Free.
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    I'm offended too!

    I thought BRITAIN was supposed to be Little America! :-(

    And while we are totally off-topic...
    Fox: Our Prime Minister (not president) is elected from within his own political party, which must win a majority of representation across the entire country. This is the same in England and other countries which follow the British model. The situation where a president can have 1,000,000 fewer votes than his rival but be declared the winner because he won a tiny poll in a single area, cannot happen in our system.
    Certainly, in Britain (England doesn't exist in this context)
    1) We can and HAVE elected a government/party with less votes than its opposition.
    2) Party leaders are NOT elected by his party members.
    3) A party can gain 10%+ of the electorate and achieve NO representation in parliament.

    Is it any wonder so many countries model themselves on the British Parliamentary System? LOL

    Last edited by Aurelius; 07-11-2003 at 08:49 AM.

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    Second largest land mass in the world, eh?


    Originally posted by boccaccio2000g
    For one thing thing Canada is much larger than the US.
    It's in the blood...

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    To clarify

    Aurelius,

    Party leaders are chosen by a majority ballot at a convention. Delegates to the convention are exclusively party members. Hence "Party leaders are chosen by party members".
    The same is true of the American experience, only they also add tiresome and expensive "primaries" before holding a national convention.
    Prime Ministers are traditionally the party leader, and in Canada, are asked by the Governor General to form a government. Traditionally, the Prime Minister is elected to the House of Commons, although there have been instances where the Leader ofthe Opposition has not held an elected seat - he/she mustthen sit in the Gallery and observe until elected.

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    Ok, so who besides me wants to move to Canada after all that?

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    Iwant to go live with redEva but don't hink my company would pay me there--bunch of bastards...

    Originally posted by kittenfemme
    Ok, so who besides me wants to move to Canada after all that?

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    Good lord!

    I SUCK at typing...let me translate from my post:

    I (space) want to go live with redEva but don't (t)hink...
    I need to stay sober when I'm posting to you folks--thanks for your tolerance.

    Originally posted by BruceBoxer
    Iwant to go live with redEva but don't hink my company would pay me there--bunch of bastards...

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    Re: I am offended

    I liked most of this post, except just a few things.

    I think that our bilingualism is a burden, not a grace. I would much prefer a solid english-speaking country with an english national laguage. We are a British commonwealth, after all.

    I think we should have term limits for our elected politicians, like they do in the States. If we did, we wouldn't be stuck with people in office like Chretien.

    Canada has been involved in plenty of aggresive actions against other countries, even in un-peacekeeping causes. The Juno Beach Foundation is building a monument in France for the Canadians that helped to liberate France in WW2.

    The UN is propped up almost exclusively by US funds. If the US backs out of the UN, the UN will fold. The UN could learn a lot from this. The US doesn't need the UN, the UN does need the US.

    I am Canadian.




    Originally posted by Fox
    Mr. Beale,

    As a Canadian, I take exception to your comment that Canada is “little America”. That is akin to calling The Netherlands “Little Germany” because they share a common border and similar language.
    Canada and the United States are very different countries, just as the Netherlands and Germany are different.

    We have a bilingual government, with two official languages. We have deep roots in France and England. We follow British parliamentary system and British common law principles. Ours is a nation founded on the principals of “order and good government”, a federation of provinces and territories who have joined together to share in mutual beneficial programs.

    Canadian standards and values are not the same as those of our neighbours to the south. Ours is a multicultural society, as opposed to the melting pot. We have free universal medical service from cradle to grave. We do not believe the average person has a right to bear arms, and in fact, deplore violence and the use of force. We do not have the death penalty, anywhere. We have a single criminal code which applies across the entire nation – in fact, those powers not specifically designated to the provinces are automatically ceded back to the federal government, which is the opposite of the American system.

    Our Prime Minister (not president) is elected from within his own political party, which must win a majority of representation across the entire country. This is the same in England and other countries which follow the British model. The situation where a president can have 1,000,000 fewer votes than his rival but be declared the winner because he won a tiny poll in a single area, cannot happen in our system.

    Canada stands proud for never having been involved in an act of aggression against any country in the world. Canada stands proud for its history of defending the rights of weaker nations and peoples and for its peacekeeping efforts throughout the past 100 years. Canadian troops lay dead on the beaches of Europe and starved in prison camps in Asia years before the United States government became involved in a war against true oppressors.

    Canada has lobbied for world peace through the United Nations, through the international agreement banning land mines (not signed by the US), through the World Court (not signed by the US) and through countless other initiatives not supported by “The land of the free and brave”.

    Recently, Canadians have taken a lot of abuse from our neighbours to the south because we did not support an invasion of Iraq. This offends me. We are a sovereign nation, as Boccaccio points out, and have the right to make our own decisions.

    Do not preach of American culture and how we want to be like you. Mr. Beale, the world does not hold Americans in the esteem that you think. Why else would American students traveling in Europe place red maple leafs on their knapsacks?

    Think of the hypocrisy in watching American television: many programs have Canadian writers, producers and actors, the cameras used are made in Japan and Asia, and you are most likely watching a set manufactured by a Japanese owned company in Singapore or China.

    Even this webiste is replete with Canadian writers, and I notice that your BDSM Tourguide hails from Alberta, not Alabama.

    Do your homework, Mr. Beale, and learn about your neighbours to the north. Discover our history, our culture, and our contributions to the world, and consider that we have done these things with a population one-tenth the size of your own.
    We are not “little Americans”, and by the grace of God, we never will be!

    Fox - a very proud Canadian living in the True North Strong and Free.
    It's in the blood...

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    Fox, I applaud your efforts not to draw this thread more off topic by posting instead to the general talk forum. Everyone wanting to read or follow up to the Canada schpeal, check it here . Eveyone else, I say we encourage blackshadowmast and his wife. It takes a good deal of will to shrug off social stigma surrounding BDSM, own up to your fantasies, and begin to explore them. And that's what this post is all about.
    Last edited by kittenfemme; 07-12-2003 at 08:47 PM.

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    Hello this is a thread on training a wife

    to be a slut not a geo political round table.

    I have already renounced my statement of 2 words
    and have been flamed enough bring back the smut.


    THE NEXT POST TO THIS THREAD ON THE TOPIC OF US V CANADA WILL GET THIS
    just kidding of course
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    Originally posted by kittenfemme
    Fox, I applaud your efforts not to draw this thread more off topic by posting instead to the general talk forum. Everyone wanting to read or follow up to the Canada schpeal, check it here . Eveyone else, I say we encourage blackshadowmast and his wife. It takes a good deal of will to shrug off social stigma surrounding BDSM, own up to your fantasies, and begin to explore them. And that's what this post is all about.
    Thank you kittenfemme!

    I'll see if I can find some more pics that can cause additional comments.

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    AND you get to apply the sentiment of your signature line, to boot!

    All in all, a most satisfactory conclusion, I think.

    (oh, and good pic, bbeale.)

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    *shudders*

    OUCH beale,

    yikes spikes that looks painful, deliciously sadistic indeed!
    veru skjava

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    Originally posted by Curtis
    AND you get to apply the sentiment of your signature line, to boot!

    (oh, and good pic, bbeale.)
    Oh, right -- like this woman's breasts are natural!

    ;-)

    Boccaccio (who much prefers the charming young woman in the Bishop drawing)

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    Like there is a real fake breast vs

    Originally posted by boccaccio2000g
    Oh, right -- like this woman's breasts are natural!

    ;-)

    Boccaccio (who much prefers the charming young woman in the Bishop drawing)
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    Like there is a real fake breast vs

    Originally posted by boccaccio2000g
    Oh, right -- like this woman's breasts are natural!

    ;-)

    Boccaccio (who much prefers the charming young woman in the Bishop drawing)
    Fake fake breast

    When a picture is electronicly faked with photoshop it does not matter if they are fake breast or not.

    But to make the real breast crowd happy I will find some illustrations with real breast if I can
    Sorry this is one for Miss milly Moo
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    Real breast

    here is a real breast
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    Joke!

    That one picture of the girl on the milking machine reminded me of a joke...

    Do you know why they call the area between a woman's tits and her pussy a waist???

    Because it is a waste!!! You could easily fit another pair of tits in there!

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    Now for somthing totally different

    You all seem like an interesting group.(politics and sex,wow).
    I think I'll like it here.
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    Borton, I am glad that you will enjoy it here as you will found it full of usefully information and helpfully people.


    and wow, I do like that picture of the young girl getting milked. All I wish now is that I had a milking machine at hand
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