poll for deleting snuff stories

[MasterRJ]

Yes it is. I forget what the Author's name is though. Grr...so if you reply to this be sure to give him/her credit.

[ProjectEuropa]

Yes it is. I forget what the Author's name is though. Grr...so if you reply to this be sure to give him/her credit.

The Perils of Pauline at Christmas by Pagan

This isn't just a snuff story it a paedophile story too! I found it a little unnerving to read.

I still think banning stories like this won't make its content go away but as a father of a 13 year old girl I do find it objectionable.

[MasterRJ]

I don't. To me the story wasn't child rape, but instead the destruction of innocence it repressented. Let me also impart a question to you. A man fantasizes about raping a child. Let's face it, there are people like that. We read about them every day in the newspaper. But it's almost like the old saying for racism goes. There are three kinds of racists. The racist that ignores a black man and prettends he doesn't exist, the racist that spits on the black man and throws him to the ground, and the racist who helps him up and dusts off his shoulders saying 'can you beleive that asshole?' Certainly pedophellia and rape are too horrible attrocious crimes. Yet I find my self fantasizing about both. But I don't fantasize about harming any child I've ever met before. I use the stories on BDSM library as an outlet for that. So back to my scenario. A man uses these stories as an outlet for such fantasies...and they are banned. Then what? Are you really doing a service to the USA by taking a person with fantasies of rape, pedophellia, and even murder and taking away his means of expressing them? I don't think so personally...and I will continue to read said stories.

[ProjectEuropa]

I don't. To me the story wasn't child rape, but instead the destruction of innocence it repressented. .

I'll certainly agree with you in so far it's left for the reader to interpret the story. The author appears to have just put it out there and not made a value judgement.

Are you really doing a service to the USA by taking a person with fantasies of rape, pedophellia, and even murder and taking away his means of expressing them? I don't think so personally...and I will continue to read said stories.

I wouldn't censor it. I don't think censorship solves any problems and merely conseals a problem. It's certainly a point of debate as to whether fantasies satisfy a inner need and negates the need to make real those fantasies. However psychopaths don't empathise so no amount of trying to satisfy their fantasies will solve the problem. But point taken and as I have said, one worth a debate.

[Winnie]

I agree that for this site, and perhaps a lot of others, it is wrong to have any censorship. The one thing I would like is that certain codes to be more strongly advertised. Perhaps "Snuff" could be in blue, "Incest" in red and so on. Then it would be easier for the reader to choose. I do not like a story with that content and so not download it, or, of course, the opposite, Oh goody that has that scene in it, I must read that.
I also think that there is a difference between death, murder and snuff. Some of the most poingant stories have been about death. Virago Blue's story on ASSTR had me just about in tears for months. Nearly spoiled my Christmas, and I read it in November. But you could not code it "snuff". I cannot say I really like snuff, so I just don't download them.
(Sorry I cannot remember the title of the story, but it, or the synopsis, was something like " some times the bad guys win")
Winnie

[Alex Bragi]

I don't. To me the story wasn't child rape, but instead the destruction of innocence it represented. ... A man uses these stories as an outlet for such fantasies...and they are banned. Then what? Are you really doing a service to the USA by taking a person with fantasies of rape, paedophilia, and even murder and taking away his means of expressing them? I don't think so personally...and I will continue to read said stories.

You can veil it with what ever term you like - but it still won't change the fact - if it involves kids (innocents) in any kind of sexual act for the enjoyment of adults (readers or viewers), then it's kiddy porn. Whether, or not, you're a paedophile because you enjoy reading about it, or viewing images of it, is debateable.

I read about the downfall of internet porn king, Tom Reedy. His defence was – the photographs posted, which shocked and distressed hardened Dallas police - were computer generated, no children were physically involved or harmed. Is a picture more offensive than a story? Stories and computer-generated pics are both creations of someone's imagination.

I know, some people will argue - "What's difference between kiddy porn and watching, or reading, about fictional violence and murder?” Well, there are differences. When we read, or view, something sexual it stimulates one of our most primal urges - to have sexual intercourse. The 'excitement' we derive from watching fictional violence is totally different. The vast majority of us, thankfully, will simple get a morbid thrill of schadenfreude from the victim, but we certainly won't fully relate, or associate, with the perpetrator.

...I also think that there is a difference between death, murder and snuff...

Absolutely, yes. Death is very broad. Murder is the taking of a life. And, snuff is even more specific, again. It’s killing for the purpose of titillation. And so, and that’s what makes it such a controversial genre. It's because it's a mixing of a purely natural instinct with one that is not. The real and the unreal if you like.

Personally, I don't like snuff or kiddy porn; so, the solution I find is to not read it.

[Mobius]

While I have not read all the new post on the subject.
I thought that this was all settled back in 2002 with the determination of:

List of codes
A warning of strong content
and if you dont like such storys dont read them.

To me It is settled

but what ever

For my continued 2 cents 4 cent with inflation.

While I like to read storys like high heal hell and other things like that.

I am not very aroused by them

Nuf sead.