poll for deleting snuff stories

[Alex Bragi]

I don't. To me the story wasn't child rape, but instead the destruction of innocence it represented. ... A man uses these stories as an outlet for such fantasies...and they are banned. Then what? Are you really doing a service to the USA by taking a person with fantasies of rape, paedophilia, and even murder and taking away his means of expressing them? I don't think so personally...and I will continue to read said stories.

You can veil it with what ever term you like - but it still won't change the fact - if it involves kids (innocents) in any kind of sexual act for the enjoyment of adults (readers or viewers), then it's kiddy porn. Whether, or not, you're a paedophile because you enjoy reading about it, or viewing images of it, is debateable.

I read about the downfall of internet porn king, Tom Reedy. His defence was – the photographs posted, which shocked and distressed hardened Dallas police - were computer generated, no children were physically involved or harmed. Is a picture more offensive than a story? Stories and computer-generated pics are both creations of someone's imagination.

I know, some people will argue - "What's difference between kiddy porn and watching, or reading, about fictional violence and murder?” Well, there are differences. When we read, or view, something sexual it stimulates one of our most primal urges - to have sexual intercourse. The 'excitement' we derive from watching fictional violence is totally different. The vast majority of us, thankfully, will simple get a morbid thrill of schadenfreude from the victim, but we certainly won't fully relate, or associate, with the perpetrator.

...I also think that there is a difference between death, murder and snuff...

Absolutely, yes. Death is very broad. Murder is the taking of a life. And, snuff is even more specific, again. It’s killing for the purpose of titillation. And so, and that’s what makes it such a controversial genre. It's because it's a mixing of a purely natural instinct with one that is not. The real and the unreal if you like.

Personally, I don't like snuff or kiddy porn; so, the solution I find is to not read it.

[Mobius]

While I have not read all the new post on the subject.
I thought that this was all settled back in 2002 with the determination of:

List of codes
A warning of strong content
and if you dont like such storys dont read them.

To me It is settled

but what ever

For my continued 2 cents 4 cent with inflation.

While I like to read storys like high heal hell and other things like that.

I am not very aroused by them

Nuf sead.

[Alex Bragi]

While I have not read all the new post on the subject.
I thought that this was all settled back in 2002 with the determination of...

You're not suggesting the topic should be censored or quashed are you?

[Mobius]

You're not suggesting the topic should be censored or quashed are you?

No of course not. I was only sugesting that it mearly expire of old age that is all.

[csr]

No of course not. I was only sugesting that it mearly expire of old age that is all.

Even if the "issue" was settled in 2002, the topic of this thread is one that can and does incite interesting discussions and debates. If it's feeling tired to you, it's your choice to not read it. Also, many of the most prolific posters right now joined in 2004--so should they not voice an opinion on a topic of discussion that predates their visits to the board? This topic is controversial to say the very least, which to me makes it still interesting to read. If we wanted to have some REAL fun, we could merge the thread with the bonsaikitten.com thread and watch the sparks fly, lol.

[Ruby]

If we wanted to have some REAL fun, we could merge the thread with the bonsaikitten.com thread and watch the sparks fly, lol.

No, please, not that! Anything but that! Anything? Well...

Regarding this thread: I often drop by to read what others are saying. There are some great discussions in here about the differences between snuff, murder, etc.

Enough that we might want to consider requesting for new story codes:
Murder
Character Death
??? - I'm sure the rest of you could come up with others

Not so much to give away the plot of the story, but to warn readers what they might find.

Thanks for the insights everyone.

[MasterRJ]

Boy did my comments get eaten alive O.O

Oh well. I stand for what I beleive in. It's unethical to censor a person's line of thinking. Therefore fantasies shouldn't be censored. Therefore erotic literature, which is typically nothing more than the Auther's sexual fantasies, shouldn't be censored either.

Am I the only one who's sad that Arthur Miller died? The Crucible was such an awesome play...

[Mad Lews]

No, please, not that! Anything but that! Anything? Well...

Enough that we might want to consider requesting for new story codes:
Murder
Character Death
??? - I'm sure the rest of you could come up with others

Not so much to give away the plot of the story, but to warn readers what they might find.

Thanks for the insights everyone.

Ok But when do we call murder/suicide snuff I wrote a story of "Os" demise where she was consensually murdered. While it may have been for the readers tittilation her own personal motives were .... well more personal. I labeled it as snuff but was it really? Sometimes our imaginary frieinds just get to complicated or our labels are just to restricting