Oh this thread time confusion is making it so hard to read anything.

About wyldWyl's comment, (and I'm speaking with no real physical bdsm experience, so I do not claim to know everything) you might have a point.

But I think it is the duty of every dom/me to delve deeper into a sub's mind and figure out if something is harmful either physically or mentally. If the sub says he or she likes a certain activity that is say...being cut and bled until they faint, it's up to the dom/me to ensure that this practise is safe and will have no future consequences.

As for the verbal humiliation, a sub places a huge amount of trust onto his/her dom/me. It is their duty to delve deeper into the mind and figure out if there is a reason for wanting this humiliation. I saw a program about rape victims and bullied girls who thought of themselves less of a normal healthy girl and more of a piece of meat, a slut, and thought themselves as dirty. They had desires to be called whore and slut not because of some healthy fantasy, but because it was what they thought could be their highest status. And being labelled as such gave them an odd sense of reassurement that they had some sense of belonging.

Sex is about happiness, but precautions should be taken.

And I believe that WyldWyl's question was with the prior information about the sub, and with a educated guess that this practise would lead to permanent damage, is it ethical?