At times I myself get confused because the dehumanization and degradation turns me on more than the humiliation such as being a puppy for my dom at the time or for him to have me as an object to dehumanize me as such. I seperate it from humiliation. Sometimes it gets confusing trying to explain that to people...when they ask what I am into at times its hard to explain the differences....then when I saw I enjoy Dehumanization or degradation, they are like but isn't that the point of no return? To me its not because someone can be a puppy...and still have the same kind of relationship with the one that they serve. It confuses me to explain myself because there are some things about humiliation I enjoy but the dehumanization intrigues me more,oaky I will stop before I confuse myself with my thoughts,lol