"Realistic" Rape Fantasy

[Cordoza]

Scandalous Pleasure has a valid point, it is a question of defining what turns the reader on. As for women being worried about rape, that's understandable, but in many situations, like war or being incarcerated in prison, male rape is a very real risk too, if not a certainty.

As for 'pleasure', I think SP is only thinking of the victim, because in totally non consensual sex it is the rapist who is getting the pleasure, and thereby also the sadistically inclined reader. It just depends which side you empathize with. I suppose the only satisfactory answer to this dilemma is for authors to cater for all scenarios, and make sure the nature of the text is clearly defined in the titling.

[lordgriffin]

Like so many forums, I see the good writers are as frustraited as I with the "fantasy" writers.

Not only rape is unrealistic. The number of times I have seen "Incest.... boy makes loveto his father's 2nd wife's 3rd cousin" or the clasic superheroine story where they get the heroine pinned...helpless and then dediced to leave her alone in a room with all of her abities and she "happens" to escape.

I think the main problem is people's fear of being recognized, how horrible that "lionwoman" get actually tamed..used..impregnated and auctioned off to an adult circus.

I see authors affriad to write about famous characters (Such as Simba or Wonderwoman) for fear "we'll get SUED" yea right and the BDSM story isn't enough for some moral idiot to try and sue? or purhaps they will sue 2 kids for playing "superman" in the back yard.

I find it hard to support ANY forum these days because of teh crushing disappointment of a well set up plot followed by the inevitable "but they really LIKED it or they got AWAY"

Why so much sex..never apregnancy...what a way to control females...

[Bald_J_and_F]

We dislike ALL stories about rape. "Rape" is by definition non-consensual, and terms like "rape-play" are simply ridiculous. Women who claim they have "rape fantasies" delude themselves; they have fantasies about rough sex, but not about rape, since the main point of "rape" is the receiving one NOT wanting it. A woman who talks of "rape fantasies" might as well talk about "square circles". Self-contradictory by definition. Using the word "rape" frivolously is an insult to all women who have been raped.

[prey4me]

You have a point,Bald J-and-F, but fantasy is fantasy. As long as we understand that it is, and remains, fiction.

Some people fear that violent fiction (and video games) induces some people to commit violent (e.g. rape) acts, and makes other people tolerant of same. Perhaps. I have have had rape fantasies all my life (I'll skip the self-analysis here), but have never done them--and I have had a few authentic opportunities.

Actually, I agree with you: it is absurd to think that a rape victim would "come around" and "respond" to her attacker's actions. I believe there are a lot of women who might fantasize about that, but if it actually happened, would find it to be a very tragic situation. And if a (probabably) man did it, he would (1) be very foolish, in this day of advanced criminology, and (2) hopefully find that it's not the gratifying experience he hoped it to be.

Alas, there are enough sick individuals who do attempt and practice this fantasy. For them, we have jails.

For the rest of us, we have bdsmlibrary.com!

(Also asstr.org)

[Ranai]

On this theme, please see also
A question for "some" of the authors

[pop_54]

I've never actually written a 'real rape' story, you know real thing, blood shit and piss everywhere... I must try one soon.

I did write one 'nc'/'reluctant' that was along the lines of a woman not so much wanting to be raped, but having the will power and sense to lay back open her legs and take it rather than struggle and risk violent injury... With this scenario where the woman was trying to relax as much as possible under the circumstances and allowing the forced sex act to take place... I found it easy and acceptable to steer her into liking it after a while... Not liking it as a voluntary sex act as such, but she began to use the guys fucking and messing about with her, she turned them against each other with comments about their individual prowess... she was also angry with them and found it fun to taunt them and begin to take control of the situation...This amused her and began to arouse her sexually, she realised that it wasn't all that bad after all, and she began to enjoy the sex acts and her new found control of these two guys... As I say this scenario I found acceptable and eventually had her each orgasm a few times.

However... Had I written that she was screaming and struggling, she needed to be restrained and beaten, she was tied by her arms and legs spreadeagle on the bed, her clothes ripped from her body, parcel tape gagging and blindfolding her, two guys taking what they wanted without feeling or care for her or her well being... Maybe both having a turn with her then beginning the bottle and cucumber insertions up both holes, caning her with sticks and whipping her with belts... The real blood shit and piss everywhere stuff... I would have been unable to steer that to any orgasmic conclusion other than for the two guys, and I would have expected to be slated and critisized by the readers for such a ridiculous scenario.

I know a lot of women and girls claim to have rape fantasies, 'no you don't girls' Real rape is shit, it hurts, it's evil