Submissive Terms?

[His_blizzard]

This attitude seems prevalent among the "Gor" crowd

I beg to differ with you Rhabbi. Perhaps some Gorean's expect such a thing but I would suspect these are more the online roleplaying Goreans and is not the case for RL Gorean's such as Master and myself. I don't mean any disrepect, but Gorean's tend to get a very bad rap because of the way we are represented in online Gorean forums and chatrooms. Many in those rooms have never even read a single book. Sorry to get up on my soapbox here, but this is a very sensitive subject to me. Although in this lifestyle we strive to be non judgmental, no one seems to think twice about bashing the Goreans. Just my two copper tarns worth, ~blizz~

[Rhabbi]

I beg to differ with you Rhabbi. Perhaps some Gorean's expect such a thing but I would suspect these are more the online roleplaying Goreans and is not the case for RL Gorean's such as Master and myself. I don't mean any disrepect, but Gorean's tend to get a very bad rap because of the way we are represented in online Gorean forums and chatrooms. Many in those rooms have never even read a single book. Sorry to get up on my soapbox here, but this is a very sensitive subject to me. Although in this lifestyle we strive to be non judgmental, no one seems to think twice about bashing the Goreans. Just my two copper tarns worth, ~blizz~

My apologies about bashing the Gorean lifestyle, that was not my intent. I have met a few offline Goreans and this is the general attitude they represent, and that is what I based my judgement upon. Plus, I must admit, some online Gorean posts that I have read.

I read the Gor books as a teenager, but quickly left them behing because, IMO, Norman spent more time talking about the philosophy of slavewry then developing his stories. As it was his book, he certainly had a write to do that, but I had an equal right to spend my limited funds on books I enjoyed more.

Having said that, I have often been confused where the Goreans get the idea that slavery is about no limits. The rules were strict, but they applied equally to the Master and the slave. I still think that a no limits relationship is more fantasy than reality. And even if it was real, it would take years to develop the necessary trust and mutual knowledge. Even then, it is limited because slavery is illegal in most countries.

I love the fantasy of a full time, no limit slave, but it will always be a fantasy.