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    No, Rhabbi, I did not know that.
    Once you put your hand in the flame,
    You can never be the same.
    There's a certain satisfaction
    In a little bit of pain.
    I can see you understand.
    I can tell that you're the same.
    If you're afraid, well, rise above.
    I only hurt the ones I love.

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    I don't see it as the same thing at all. The Bible proscribes roles based on gender, and to me whether a person is Submissive or Dominant has nothing to do with their gender. I do not believe that women are "naturally" more submissive than men, and it actually makes me kind of mad when people suggest that. As Red mentioned, D/s was originally a community of gay men, meaning that a large number of them had to be submissive. We currently live in a world where male domination is considered more acceptable, meaning that fewer women are free to explore their dominant sides.

    I don't submit to my husband because I'm a woman, or because I'm his wife. I do because it is what satisfies me as an individual. I'd have the same reaction to someone saying that I liked certain musicians or voted a certain way because I'm a woman -- I feel that that philosophy takes away from the individual agency that many of us have had to fight for over the years.
    I love myself, I want you to love me
    When I feel down I want you above me
    I search myself, I want you to find me
    I forget myself, I want you to remind me.

    -- the DeVinyls, "I Touch Myself"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hime View Post
    I don't see it as the same thing at all. The Bible proscribes roles based on gender, and to me whether a person is Submissive or Dominant has nothing to do with their gender. I do not believe that women are "naturally" more submissive than men, and it actually makes me kind of mad when people suggest that. As Red mentioned, D/s was originally a community of gay men, meaning that a large number of them had to be submissive. We currently live in a world where male domination is considered more acceptable, meaning that fewer women are free to explore their dominant sides.

    I don't submit to my husband because I'm a woman, or because I'm his wife. I do because it is what satisfies me as an individual. I'd have the same reaction to someone saying that I liked certain musicians or voted a certain way because I'm a woman -- I feel that that philosophy takes away from the individual agency that many of us have had to fight for over the years.
    Although I have to agree with you that the Bible seems to assign roles based on gender, there are those that would argue with that point. There are FemDom Christian groups that see no conflict with Scripture.

    As for you submitting to your husband because of who you are, that is what makes submission a beautiful gift between two people.

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