Warbaby - just returning to your original question. I once asked Rabbit if it was possible to exclude F & G from post count - or have an additional count running which did not include F & G - the furry one said 'no'.

F & G is a valuable part of the site, one where relationships are formed. An important part of this site is the human side, it helps to create an environment where we can discuss more sensitive issues. Some like F & G with a passion, some dislike it with an equal passion. My personal view is that F & G, like the rest of the forums, ultimately belongs to the members, although the staff keep the structure in place to facilitate what happens. If the members wish to use F & G for non challenging games, then that is their decision. If someone starts such a game and it is not popular then the thread will simply sink.

However, we have been discussing ways, other than just post count, of recognising members. This is now approaching a final draft...so watch this space. I hope you will like what we come up with.

cariad