So I forgot to make the bed (twice) and now we have an interesting discussion

[Rhabbi]

This discussion started in the cum restriction support thread. Basically, I forgot to make the bed two days in a row, and that sparked a discussion about:

-whether it is really possible to forget something twice
-whether punishment for accidental mistakes like this can be fun

And more interstingly:
-the merits of the "get on your knees bitch" Dom vs. the fluffy Dom, and the joy that can come from the middle road in between
-whether indulgence/bratty behavior keeps the relationship away from this middle road.


Here's a link to the previous discussion: http://www.bdsmlibrary.com/forums/sh...t=11939&page=5

Without talking about the bed making incident and what that may or may not imply about my relationship with Sir, I'm interested to hear everyone's opinions on this, and hear the previous arguments hashed out more if Oz, Rhabbi, and Logic are interested in hashing them. If we must use an example let's say a sub forgot to dust, twice.

(Oh man, it just occured to me that not only was this discussion in the wrong thread, it was probably in the wrong part of the forums. If anyone has the know how, and thinks this should be somewhere else, that would be dandy)

I believe you have it in the right part of the forum, if not a mod can move it.

Here is my previuos post on this subject.

You miss the point of the question. But you make mine. I agree. That would be mistreatment. Why do you condone subs who mistreat the dom? (Only we call it disrespect.)

That's a different scenario. Forgetting some component of a larger or complex task doesn't require punishment of any sort. The attempt to learn counts. Tell me how forgetting the entire task is the equivalent?

Many threads morph. If you don't want to discuss it... stop asking questions or making statements that beg responses.

Point to any instance anywhere where I condoned anyone disrespecting anyone and I will back down on this issue.

My point, and I believe Logic's also, was that people are imperfect. Mishka particularly has trouble remembering things so I am sensitive on this issue. I discuss it with her when she forgets something, but do not assume that if she does it more than once that it is because she is being deliberately disobedient. Logic's initial comment was about accidental disobedience, and you chimed in with the opinion that it does not exists, that repeated instances of forgetting things is deliberate.

That is not the case, and it does not just mean simple forgetting part of a larger task. And would not forgetting to make the bed after living a whole life of not doing so fall into that category anyway? That of the myraid individual tasks of keeping house.

As I stated, the other thread is meant to discuss cum restriction as training, and although it expanding to include cum restriction as a punishment is not beyond the scope of that thread, this discussion about different philosophies of training and punishment is way beyond the original intent. That does not mean I am not willing to discuss it, but I do think we are going past the intent of Mishka when she started her thread. And, as she is on vacation, I am speaking up for her.

But now that Naomi saw the obvious solution and moved it I am more than willing to continue the discussion.