20/20 on Gun Control

[newby]

Amen Thorne & Midnite. While i have no desire to kill anyone, if the choice is him or me, i wont go down quietly. If i do maim or kill someone, will i hate it? You bet! Will i feel remorse? Of course! But i have no doubt that i would rather die defending myself or my family than die do nothing at all.

And while i wont get into a pissing match w/ TYWD, it is an unfair assumption he makes:

So, I'd give you good odds, Midnite and Newby, that if someone shoved a gun in your face, and you co-operated with what he told you to do, you'd survive, whereas if you tried to pull a gun on him, he'd shoot you first. (I'd give better odds to Newby, of course, as Midnite clearly has handled guns professionally.)

Since you dont know how many thousands of rounds i've shot, or how many hundreds of hours i've trained in open hand & weapons self defense, dont count this girl out.

[Thorne]

Amen Thorne & Midnite. While i have no desire to kill anyone, if the choice is him or me, i wont go down quietly. If i do maim or kill someone, will i hate it? You bet! Will i feel remorse? Of course! But i have no doubt that i would rather die defending myself or my family than die do nothing at all.

And while i wont get into a pissing match w/ TYWD, it is an unfair assumption he makes:

Since you dont know how many thousands of rounds i've shot, or how many hundreds of hours i've trained in open hand & weapons self defense, dont count this girl out.

I grew up in the Newark - New York City suburbs many years ago. I know that if you try to cooperate with someone who has a gun to your head there's a 50/50 chance that he'll kill you anyway. You have a 60% chance of surviving if you can dislocate his knee with your foot, and a 90% chance if you can drive his nasal bones up into his brain. If you get the chance you'd better take it.

[nia25]

How sad this debate has to be degrated to name calling! Can't there be a friendly debate without it? Anyway, I have heard of instances where people's homes are broken into and they where killed; not with a gun in their hand! I think a lot of it has to do with how you are raised. I was raised that shooting is a sport. Sure a gun can defend you if you need it. That's a perk, and so can a baseball bat! But are those illegal? I was raised around guns, and many people are not. Many of them are the ones who do not understand guns in thier entirity.

[Thorne]

How sad this debate has to be degrated to name calling! Can't there be a friendly debate without it? Anyway, I have heard of instances where people's homes are broken into and they where killed; not with a gun in their hand! I think a lot of it has to do with how you are raised. I was raised that shooting is a sport. Sure a gun can defend you if you need it. That's a perk, and so can a baseball bat! But are those illegal? I was raised around guns, and many people are not. Many of them are the ones who do not understand guns in thier entirity.

Yes, I agree. Too much name calling, not enough friendliness. Everyone does not have to agree on everything. What a boring world that would be.

Unlike you, I was not raised around guns. I have fired some, many years ago. I didn't feel the need to run out and get some, though. Just not for me. But I still feel people should have the right to own guns. And baseball bats.