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    Thorne: Nope. Not even close. Science says that if you stand in front of a speeding train you will get hit and most likely die. Religion says that if you pray hard enough, God will spare you. Where would you like to place your bet?
    First, I would like to point out that God might choose to let me die for "testing" Him. Deities can be contrary buggers at times!

    But if I truly believed, then I'd place my bet on the power of prayer over that of steam/diesel/electricity any day. Only if I were sullied with doubt - caused perhaps by scientists - would my prayer fail to save me. And, if by any chance, God slipped up and the train got me, at least He could raise me from the dead. What scientist can do that?

    Alex Bragi: You know the thing that always intrigues me most about debates between theists and atheists? It's that, invariably, each side is convinced they are absolutely right and the other side is absolutely wrong.
    Uh huh But we are dealing in absolutes here.


    Alex Bragi: Originally Posted by ThisWillDoYou

    LOL


    Moonraker: I somehow think that should the right honorourable Peter Clegg ever be PM and place his hand on the Bible his statements will be just as truthful as all of his christian predecessors.
    How could anyone possibly disagree? LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThisYouWillDo
    But if I truly believed, then I'd place my bet on the power of prayer over that of steam/diesel/electricity any day. Only if I were sullied with doubt - caused perhaps by scientists - would my prayer fail to save me.
    Nice to hear that! Now, there's this bridge in Arizona I've just acquired title to. And it's even named after London. I can let you have it for a song.

    And, if by any chance, God slipped up and the train got me, at least He could raise me from the dead. What scientist can do that?
    In the first place, God, by definition, cannot "slip up." And secondly, Doctors, aka scientists, routinely bring people back from the dead. And if you don't believe them, just ask those people who have had Near Death Experiences. Most will tell you that they were dead. Now you might say that God's hand was involved in those recoveries, but for a very long time Christian religions declared those who practiced medicine to be witches and pagans. I guess God "slipped up" on that one, too.
    "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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