Thinking about this some more... it occurred to me, I assume that bunkerchief does not think that all women are subbies. If he does, he will have a real problem in this world. Forget BDSM - he is just socially unacceptable and will be locked away.

So that leaves him with those that DECIDE for THEMSELVES to be subbies, and of course that won't work for him because he doesn't like the element of consent!

Then we have the added problem for bunkerchief - he fails to comprehend that each person has their own degree of submission... it seems to me that BC expects all or nothing. Well BC, there are a few out there that desire this, just like there are a few out there like you that expect this. I hope you find each other.

In the meantime, let those of us who seem to be the majority, enjoy what we have, and do not trivialise it just because it isn't your taste.

Brosco