I have just spent the last 24 hours working with a former slave that has been convinced by a gorean that she needs that way of life to be a "real" slave. Some of the things he wants are real and right but so much of it is "I want this dream slave that has no rights, no power of thought or will to be a person".

These are the assholes that make it hard to warm up to the lifestyle in general. He doesn't believe that he has to train her that she has to become the perfect slave without any false steps. That he has no need to know and meet her needs she is there to serve him.

That is the kind of crap that gives abusers and posers the mantel of being a Dom without accepting any of the responsibility to his poor victim.

I bet that he hasn't had a "slave" last very long with him since he has the mantel of all ways be right and no need to work or earn her trust and respect. He push this lady past anything reasonable and then left when she snapped. At that point she was well beyond a limit that she has a barrier that is very hard for her. Instead of any acknowledgement of her effort he laughed at her for faultering at this boundery.

Apologize to Dragon and his blizzard I know that they have taken the good parts of Gor and left the rest and that is great but it is also the tenants that I was taught was right for D/s, but with the flexibility to alter what isn't right for the couple.