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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Bragi View Post
    The the story of Sodom and Gomorrah is a part of the Old Testament--a history of Jewish people and therefor not Gospel. Also I think most Christians see the Bible more as guide to a good life since it was written for the people of the time, and times change. Annie, if you were to follow it to the letter, you'd have a restricted diet; you wouldn't be allowed to cut your hair, and every month you'd have to go away until you were 'clean' again!
    According to the "2001 religious survey" by Barry Kosmin, (the biggest survey on US religious faith ever done) this is the faith of most US Christians. But there's the great Steven Weinberg quote "If we use our own moral judgement on which parts of the Bible to follow, aren't we just using our own moral judgement? What do we need the Bible for?" So I'm going to argue that the most people who call themselves Christian aren't really Christian. They've got a wide variety of various faiths we haven't given names to. But they like to share the title Christian, because it gives them the, (false) sense of having something in common.

    edit: my point is that if you're not following the Bible literally you can combine Christianity with any activity no matter how bizarre. If you are following the Bible literally you immediately run into the problem of that it isn't compatible with modern moral values. So you'd be arrested if you tried.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Bragi View Post
    Interestingly, some researcher now believe that those two cities were most certainly destroyed, but it was a naturally occurring phenomenon in the area--gases building up in the rock formations until they exploded. So, were they really so sinful after all? Or, were they just a bunch of people having a good time in the wrong place?
    This is quite central to Christian beliefs. It's the belief that God works in secret by sneaking around doing good, and trying to fool people into that he doesn't exist...to test our faith. Doing some act miraculous act that would break the laws of nature and prove his existence, would be way to easy. That would convert every human soul in a second. God wouldn't want that would he? It would make everything so boring and predictable. But hey, wait a minute, he's omnipotent.... hm.... yeah.... why is he so unwilling to convert people?
    Last edited by TomOfSweden; 03-20-2008 at 03:36 AM.

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