Don't go bad-mouthing cattle prods and bullwhips!
Oh you beast Aesop!

Thanks for that Mistress M- some excellent points to remember.
We do have a lot of info in the 'Knowledge' section, for new people- and those just wishing to learn more.

Tojo, I was only allowed to post if Master Evan permitted it
Thanks for that Kate, a very good point I had forgotten about. Just goes to show how different we all are.




Tojo