Quote Originally Posted by DOMLORD View Post
so for this particular exercise we will assume that heaven exists, it is ruled by a Christian God's law, and that if you're not a morally upstanding person you don't get into heaven.
I assume that by Christian God you are referring to the New Testament God? The "very goody-goody, no sin can be unforgivable if you're really, really sorry" God?

And WHICH Christian God? The Protestant Christian God? The Baptist Christian God? The Roman Catholic God? The Greek Orthodox God? The Russian Orthodox God? While they are all similar there are fundamental differences in them, and in who they will allow into heaven. So let's make sure we know which God is making the rules.

a man with schizophenia kills several people, you know to get the voices to stop. becasue it is basically God's doing that gave this man a judgement and personality disorder should this man go to hell for his action, after shooting up with cocain as the final act of silencing the voices.
This sounds more like the Old Testament God, persecuting his subjects just for the hell of it. If God made him insane, can God hold him responsible for the results of his insanity? Well, if God is making the rules then I suppose he can.

To my mind this touches on the fundamental question of religion: if God made us the way we are then how can we be held liable for our actions? And if we hear voices telling us to do these things, who's to say whether the voices are those of God or Satan or just our own tormented minds? All of the holy men throughout history, from Abraham through Moses and Jesus and Muhammad, all heard voices at one point or another. They proclaimed that those voices were the voice of God, and people believed them. Who's to say that some poor schmuck who felt the need to kill his family wasn't hearing those same voices? So how can we punish him if he's doing what God told him to do? And how can we be sure that it wasn't God who was telling him? Hell, for all we know the only way into heaven is to sacrifice your family to this bloodthirsty God. No one can prove otherwise.