Any other atheists here? Some frustration

[fetishdj]

I have problem with the concept of 'faith in science'... you see, you cannot be a scientist and have faith in science as you always, absolutely always, question everything all the time... But I do understand what you actually mean by the term which is you are more willing to trust the evidence of science than that of religion.

There have been some amusing attempts at logic by religious types to try to disprove evolution. If I find the time and anyone is interested I may post a few of them I have heard. The basic summary of them is that Creationists and IDers are still fighting a battle scientists had among themselves about 30 years ago and are no longer interested in. They stopped worrying so much about 'If' evolution happened and started exploring theories as to 'How'. And it turns out the creationists were right - Darwin was wrong. Not in the overall principle but in some of the detail - specifically that evolution takes a long time to happen. We now know it takes a lot less time and is not entirely genes (which more recent scientific dogma had stated) - there are other factors at work.

But that is an aside...

[Thorne]

I have problem with the concept of 'faith in science'... you see, you cannot be a scientist and have faith in science as you always, absolutely always, question everything all the time... But I do understand what you actually mean by the term which is you are more willing to trust the evidence of science than that of religion.

I guess what I am trying to say is that I have faith in the scientific method. Results are checked and verified and checked again, over and over, until it becomes reasonably certain that the results won't diverge outside of statistical error. True, even then things can happen to change scientific understanding, but I have "faith" that scientific explanations of how the world works are far and away more accurate than religious explanations.
On the other hand, someone once proved mathematically that a bumblebee cannot fly!

There have been some amusing attempts at logic by religious types to try to disprove evolution. If I find the time and anyone is interested I may post a few of them I have heard. The basic summary of them is that Creationists and IDers are still fighting a battle scientists had among themselves about 30 years ago and are no longer interested in. They stopped worrying so much about 'If' evolution happened and started exploring theories as to 'How'. And it turns out the creationists were right - Darwin was wrong. Not in the overall principle but in some of the detail - specifically that evolution takes a long time to happen. We now know it takes a lot less time and is not entirely genes (which more recent scientific dogma had stated) - there are other factors at work.

But that is an aside...

I would be interested in hearing them. I'm always game for a good laugh. Except that in my neck of the woods (and it is, indeed, a red neck) it's more depressing than humorous.