a subtle question of perspective I think!

[GearJammer]

This is a rather involved question which has many facets and which, I hope, will lead to some deep thought, indepth discussion and solid information exchange.

In a conversation with precious we touched on the subject of objectification. The discussion was short, but it did start the mental gears turning. (Yes, there was smoke and a nauseous smell) As I pondered this several questions came to my mind.

First, is there a difference in humiliation, degradation, dehumanization, and objectification from the standpoint of a BDSM relationship?

If there is a difference, how do you define those differences?

Within those difference, if there are any, how does one incorporate these into a BDSM relationship and how does it affect the dynamic of that relationship?

I am also curious as to how the perspective of orientation (Dom, Sub, Top, Bottom) affects the view of the use of this type of play in a BDSM relationship?

Ok. . . . . I have my own opinions about this, but I am going to refrain from tossing them out until some others have put out a few thoughts. I want to use my thoughts and opinions to prod and tweak the discussion along.

TDS

There is a difference.

I reject the wisdom of defining them.

Defining them draws a line between them, a boundary. It either is or is not this or that (humiliation or degradation, for instance). Reality is that there are grey areas between each, as one passes through the progression. Definitions, therefore, are misleading; and misleading, in an area that has the potential for hurt that this one does, is very dangerous.