Quote Originally Posted by Blue_Monday
I think this is a great topic, but it brings up so many questions-- Can a guy ejaculate without being hard first? Can he have an orgasm without ejaculating?

Of course guys can get hard without direct contact, and Ruby, it sounds like you're saying Nat has come without direct contact (it has to be physically possible, because it can happen in your sleep).

Maybe it's a two-step process?
I think there is something called "milking" that makes you ejaculate without having an orgasm. I think it has something to do with massaging the prostrate. I believe that is what I read but I could be way off base here. Maybe someone else is more familiar with that subject.