Well now I suppose that depends on your definition of a slave. We all have different ideas about this and while I respect yours, many of us don't agree that having a slave means total control and really in this instance it sounds like a person my be being pushed into something she really doesn't want to do. That's not bdsm, that's rape in my opinion. Not knowing the whole situation I could be wrong of course, but back to my original point. If you'd like to get along with the group here I'd suggest you refrain from blanket definitions of roles within d/s. Just some friendly advice Cromac. Enjoy your stay with us.