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And mine is, "Why not?"
Not a very convincing reason to make a huge deal out of it.
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Even if you are right (and I don't think you are) so what? Acceptence isn't something just lightly brushed off. I can't help but put this in a bdsm context. I would love the freedom to walk down the street with my sub on a leash, but that ain't gonna happen for a loooong time, if ever. Because that has been labled as unacceptable. Don't folks have a right to acceptence if they aren't hurting anyone?
What 'right' are you talking about? Walking down the street with a sub on a leash isn't something you want minors to see, so you are in effect hurting someone. However, I understand your main point. I believe that, for better or worse, that will happen eventually; at one point being gay was something you couldn't tell anyone for the same reasons.
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I can't disagree with that more as an overall statement. My marriage is about my wife and I. The kids give me a family, not a marriage.
Maybe you are right there; I just don't see the difference between your kind of marriage and a bf/gf relationship.
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Hmm...in another thread you seem to think there are just thousands of qualified couples out there ready and willing to adopt unwanted children, but here you stress how careful a body has to be when allowing adoption. A contradiction or did I miss something?
There are thousands of qualified couples that are willing to adopt. A small percentage of millions of couples is a pretty big number. The difference is there aren't that many gay couples, so a small percentage of those actually isn't all that big anymore.

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That doesn't seem all that different than extended family living arragements. Seems to me the more love and guidance a child has the better.
That means you're for legalizing polygamy. Nothing strictly wrong with that, just some people don't realize what they're implying.
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And you're right. They don't call them perverts for nothing. They call them perverts because they are ignorant, biased folks who have a narrow view on life. You do realize these same kind of people would love to have places like this shut down, don't you?
I disagree. Ridiculous numbers of child abuse cases you see on TV are homosexual; even though there are plenty of heterosexual people that abuse children, the numbers are out of proportion with the population of this country that is homosexual. Calling someone 'ignorant' or 'biased' adds nothing to the discussion, and I can't figure out what that has to do with closing down this site.

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Of course they would show up strong at first. Everyone jumps the gun when it's new and these people would probably be the same. But I don't think it follows that the issue is 94% hype because of that. Some people want to get married. That's all.
Yup, some do just want to get married. But if you take an issue that obviously isn't hype, like say hunger in Africa, people aren't going to stop eating, or eat less after a few years is an abundance of food magically materializes. There is a pretty big difference between this 'issue' and other issues; the label 'hype' is unimportant.

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Well now to this I can't speak with any real accuracy, but I don't think it would be any worse than man-woman marriages. Might even be a little better. After all, you wouldn't have those cross sex issues to deal with.
But, you do have the issue that some gay couples might decide they aren't homosexual after all. Take your pick.

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Practicing homosexuality is a symptom of a mental disorder? Or were you speaking of incest? I really just don't know what to say to you if you meant the former....
I don't know if you're deliberately misquoting me here, but what I meant was practicing incest is a symptom of a mental disorder.

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But there is no federal law (in the U.S. anyway) against gay marriage so I don't see what your point is here. The president and his lackeys are trying to get it passed into law.
And they'll never get anywhere, because the whole thing is a gimmick. Just like everything else this president is doing.

This may just be me, but I like it when things are done for the right reasons. Going on and on about gay marriage just so you can wear a badge that says "I'm married and everyone loves me" is pretty dumb.

Keep the discussion calm