Quote Originally Posted by cheeseburger
Not a very convincing reason to make a huge deal out of it.
Perhaps, but we see the people as making a huge deal out of it on different sides. Had everyone just said, "Oh they want to get married? Sure." there would be no big deal.

What 'right' are you talking about? Walking down the street with a sub on a leash isn't something you want minors to see, so you are in effect hurting someone. However, I understand your main point. I believe that, for better or worse, that will happen eventually; at one point being gay was something you couldn't tell anyone for the same reasons.
Oh the 'right' I was referring to was your opinion that the people who want this are only doing it to make a ruckus. And you know, I really wouldn't care if my kids saw someone with a leash. I'd take them aside and explain it as best I could. Same as I do when they see a hundred other things they don't understand. I'd probably use a wedding ring analogy.

Maybe you are right there; I just don't see the difference between your kind of marriage and a bf/gf relationship.
Yeah I remember when I thought it wasn't any different too.

There are thousands of qualified couples that are willing to adopt. A small percentage of millions of couples is a pretty big number. The difference is there aren't that many gay couples, so a small percentage of those actually isn't all that big anymore.
So because there aren't that many and those few there are would have to be put under a microscope because....? I still don't get the because. Your earlier statement seems a tad biased. Almost as if because they are gay they are going to make bad parents.

That means you're for legalizing polygamy. Nothing strictly wrong with that, just some people don't realize what they're implying.
I'm not against it.

I disagree. Ridiculous numbers of child abuse cases you see on TV are homosexual; even though there are plenty of heterosexual people that abuse children, the numbers are out of proportion with the population of this country that is homosexual. Calling someone 'ignorant' or 'biased' adds nothing to the discussion...
Well now I'd be interested to know where you are getting your information from. I have a large number of both female and male friends. Almost all of my female friends were at one time or another sexually abused or almost sexually abused by a trusted male. One of my male friends was. And even if you take into account that they don't want to talk about it, that still puts the number of hetero abuse higher than homosexual abuse. Besides something this country really should understand is that homosexual does not equal pedophile. I think the words I used are fair words for people who generalize without looking at the situation. I wasn't calling you those things. You stated you have no personal interest in this topic and I took that at face value. If you were insulted I do apologize.

...and I can't figure out what that has to do with closing down this site.
Well it's been my experience that people who are ready to slap a label on someone because of their sexual preference are also (generally speaking of course) the same kind of people who assume moral authority. It isn't that far a leap for me from no gay marriage to no kinky sex at all.

Yup, some do just want to get married. But if you take an issue that obviously isn't hype, like say hunger in Africa, people aren't going to stop eating, or eat less after a few years is an abundance of food magically materializes. There is a pretty big difference between this 'issue' and other issues; the label 'hype' is unimportant.
Is there a reason we have to choose between issues? Yes I agree that hungry people take precedence over this issue as far as resources are concerned, but it doesn't take any of my resources to say, "Go ahead, get married if it makes you happy."

But, you do have the issue that some gay couples might decide they aren't homosexual after all. Take your pick.
So they would get a divorce I assume. Same as any straight couple.

I don't know if you're deliberately misquoting me here, but what I meant was practicing incest is a symptom of a mental disorder.
Nope. Not misquoting, just clarifying.

And they'll never get anywhere, because the whole thing is a gimmick. Just like everything else this president is doing.
Lol. Well we agree on something at least.

This may just be me, but I like it when things are done for the right reasons. Going on and on about gay marriage just so you can wear a badge that says "I'm married and everyone loves me" is pretty dumb.
I'm sorry my friend, but that really seems like a trivialization of something very important to a lot of people.

Keep the discussion calm
I couldn't be calmer cheeseburger.