Watch Christopher Hitchens Get Waterboarded

[Kuskovian]

You might be right there mkemse.

Though its possible he is a close second to Jefferson and mabey even Wilson in that department. Those two went outside the letter of the law every chance they got. It was called implied powers back then, of course with out Jeffersons many improprietes, the Surpreme Court's function to determine Constitutionality wouldn't exist.

Speaking of which the courts are allready getting into Bush's little indescritions conserning constitutional law and implied powers so we may see some more landmark decissions soon.

One thing that never changes:

I haven't heard a single well supported or reaserched statement from the co called experts of obsfucation (the journalists) since they came on the scene.
Thier idea of reaserch is to spout out thier prefered party's dogma like so much gibberish and then act offended if anyone says anything to the contrary dems and republicans alike.
They keep resonding like a yo yo, reactionist and lacking any real vision or understanding, one retort after another.

Look at one of the most famous journalists: William Randolph Herst

Herst told his reporters to give him a story any story weather true or not and he would make the war with cuba happen. Sad thing was he did he set the bar high for his posterity in weaving crapola to the poor ignorant massess.

Just goes to show that sophism is alive and well today, with every thing every journalist ever does.

Thier attempts to control the massess know no boundaries. If they can't win one way they resort to any means they can find. Especially character deformation, they specialize in that one, it's thier favorite.

Lucky us though if we ever have another revolution they will be the first to the fireing squads , just like the lawyers.

[mkemse]

You might be right there mkemse.

Though its possible he is a close second to Jefferson and mabey even Wilson in that department. Those two went outside the letter of the law every chance they got. It was called implied powers back then, of course with out Jeffersons many improprietes, the Surpreme Court's function to determine Constitutionality wouldn't exist.

Speaking of which the courts are allready getting into Bush's little indescritions conserning constitutional law and implied powers so we may see some more landmark decissions soon.

One thing that never changes:

I haven't heard a single well supported or reaserched statement from the co called experts of obsfucation (the journalists) since they came on the scene.
Thier idea of reaserch is to spout out thier prefered party's dogma like so much gibberish and then act offended if anyone says anything to the contrary dems and republicans alike.
They keep resonding like a yo yo, reactionist and lacking any real vision or understanding, one retort after another.

Look at one of the most famous journalists: William Randolph Herst

Herst told his reporters to give him a story any story weather true or not and he would make the war with cuba happen. Sad thing was he did he set the bar high for his posterity in weaving crapola to the poor ignorant massess.

Just goes to show that sophism is alive and well today, with every thing every journalist ever does.

Thier attempts to control the massess know no boundaries. If they can't win one way they resort to any means they can find. Especially character deformation, they specialize in that one, it's thier favorite.

Lucky us though if we ever have another revolution they will be the first to the fireing squads , just like the lawyers.

The other issue also is that when ask about Waterboarding or anything else "illegal" in context, if Bush does not use "Executive Pridlege" to skirt the issue he will say he can't discuss in the Name of National Security, it is or seems with his to almost always be 1 or the other, as i mentioned above, right now wehave 3 sets of Laws, The Constitution, The Geneva Convention and what ever Bush feels suits him best

[Virulent]

Lucky us though if we ever have another revolution they will be the first to the fireing squads , just like the lawyers.

I will continue drinking to that! But don't stop there by any means...