edit at the beginning of paragraph 5 in my posting above - read: "they /many ISPs/ are not 'in the black' on a realtime basis" (they are not sailing ahead and pulling in surplus). Having a high share value reflects nothing about if your company is actutally making net money, many high-profile internet companies have spent gazillions before they became financially sound - or till they foundered. The same is true in showbiz.