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    Yeah, I felt pretty attacked, but only because each line seemed to have something to do with something I had said. Especially the gay sex line, since was precisely the opposite of what I was trying to get across, and you making it seemed as though it was in reference to my post. Glad to know it wasn't.

    I'll go ahead and say that I'm pretty much the most apologetic person in the world, so it's not even as though I was apologizing to you specifically, I just.. do that when I throw out opinions I feel strongly about. Thing about being Catholic and Asian is, you get guilty. And I honestly wasn't that affected by you, it's just that the nature about my feelings on these issues is pretty strong and so is going to sound kind of defensive. Actually, feeling like your post was meant towards me gave me an extra opportunity to get back up on my soapbox about terminology framing and clarify my thoughts for myself, so only good came of it from my end. It doesn't seem like anything that I actually had to say was communicated past your own need for me to stop apologizing, but that's fine. I'll keep sharing my thoughts and then keep making jokes about "wasting the internet" because that's what I do when I get self-conscious about talking too much. It happens, it'll keep happening.

    I once saw a documentary about a man who was in a serious, loving online relationship, and then he realized that he was actually just in love with his iBook. So then the iBook and he dated for a while. Ultimately, it didn't work out but they're still friends. Wacky, mostly joking example of times when people feel real emotion for shit you and I wouldn't classify as in the realm of possibility for love. He didn't fuck his iBook, but he cried when they broke up... lol. Love? Sex? What?

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    I did understand what you were trying to say and I do appreciate where you are coming from. I just didn't care. All I could really care about was how attacked I had made you feel. Until that was cleared up, the label discussion was irrelevant to me.

    How you treat people is very important. I feel strongly about that. That is truly the basis of my problem with the whole bisexuality thing. People's hearts and emotions do get very wrapped up in sex. I think you should be very careful about other people's hearts.

    I see, regularly, that 'so-called' bisexuals are quite careless with 'actual' bisexuals and lesbians.

    I do think it is possible to have sex without love where nobody gets hurt. But, just because you aren't interested in love doesn't mean that's how the situation is going to play out. If somebody thinks there is a possibility you might love them and that is not true, they are in a very precarious situation.

    I see a lot of callousness. I also see it in a lot of purely straight women who have male friends. They know he loves her but pretend it's just a friendship. They pretend to be unaware of all the possibilities he thinks exist but truly don't.

    It just seems to me that, if you had compassion for others, you wouldn't call yourself a bisexual if the possibility of love didn't exist. You wouldn't talk about labels, you would only care about making sure the other person didn't harbor secret, impossible hopes.

    That's what really bothers me about it. I don't put bisexuals on a pedestal. I don't put anybody on a pedestal. I think we're all retards. Different groups tend to be retarded in different ways but we're all retarded.

    Dan Savage has something called the 'campsite rule'. Whatever sexual relationship you get into, the golen rule is the campsite rule. Do everything in your power to make sure the person is as good or better off than when you found them.

    It is possible that my experiences have not been representative of how these people really are. But, my experiences do cause me to think that these women who call themselves bisexual but could never love a woman are the kinds of people who leave trash and smoldering fire.

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