Gorean Philosophies

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I believe what my owner is saying is that to "say one thing and do another" is hyprocracy.

We do not condone the current President's excuse for the invasion of Iraq. But we will not protest a victory in that war, we would not see our troops brought home in defeat or thier honor impinged by those that wish to use sophist rehtoric and work against them while saying they don't. My husband was a soldier for many years and see's such statements made by in previous wars as well as this one , as a blanket staement to condone the undermining of his brothers in arm's morale.

The analogy was used to point out that when one calls a book, such as the bible or the upandishads or the koran a load of "crap" or some such, that regaurdless of what they think they are saying to others; the believers of such a book are indeed being told that thier belifs are wrong, in effect that they are wrong.

By damyanti: "My specific question is...whats the difference between kajira and ("ordinary") bdsm slave/submissive...except for a few exotic names, some extra positions (and imaginative sf role play, for some)...I really don't see what the big deal is and how its different from the rest of the bdsm..."

Well damyanti,,, for the most part it isnt any different. Axcept perhaps as described bellow:

I would also like to point out that we have many scources for inspiration in addition to expouseing Gorean ways. When we came to this site; however, I saw allmost from day one, a certian level of "anti-gorean" attitude and disdain, some directed in a most hurtful manner directly to me in chat simply becuase i refered to myself as a kajira when asked "what i was", which after discussing with my owner we decided it must stem mainly from an appparent ignorance of what Gor is all about so:,

We are striving to educate people to the reality that being Gorean per-say is not in fact so different from other ways of practicing bdsm. We are trying to show people the bueaty of it, where too many before us have obfuscated or maligned it's message.

Alltough there are some things it is not about that many other perspectives find generally acceptable two examples of which being:

Sadisum and Ritual Practices:

Sadisum for instance goes against Gorean preceps. Pain is not used soely for it's own sake, more so as a tool to garner and further submission.

To harm ones slave simply to please your own whim shows a severe lack of disipline on the dominants part and is considered by goreans to be unussually cruel or "perverted" and unnatural. One does not damage one's most prized possession in such a way without being considered a fool. A gorean master must be under just as much if not more disipline than the slave.

Thier is a stronger emphasis placed on rituals than in some circles.
For instance:

When I preform the ritual of "Obedience" it is perhaps one of the most important and symbolic conditions of my servitude in the Gorean custom and i am honnored to have the previlage to do so, every time I am called upon to preform it, it is a "big" deal.

Here is an example of the ritual to clairify what i am saying:

(Regardless of what ever position i was in, i gracefully move to kneel before my owner and streatch forth sliding unto my belly placeing the side of my face on the ground just infront of his feet, my hands to eaither side of my head (palms up), my tail will be rather high as i keep my lower legs where they were, arching my back.

i then silently plead with my trembeling body perhaps softely mewing my eyes looking up at Him in adoration, when and if he chooses to acknoledge me, i tentativly reach forth and guilde His right foot to rest upon my head and neck and place my hands behind my back with the wrists crossed as if bound

This is the sacred ritual of female obedience, beneath his full wieght i would be crushed, it is symbolic of more than just my free submission to him, it is a proffering of my very life to his will,

the signifigance is not only the physical aspects of his greater strength, but the mental and spiritual relationship between a Master and his kajira, under the full wieght of his dominance i would easily be crushed like a flower by a fist,

in placing my total trust , love and devotion in him, i have crossed the line between being a submissive and entered that of a full pleasure slave bound by my Masters will, i am his property and completely at his mercy,....

............................ in the preformance of this ritual of full obedience before him i am truely "being kajira").

We are not saying other ways are wrong or lack anything for those involved. We are not saying they lack importance for the people that practice them.What we are saying is there is a much more spiritual aspect to the "Gorean Way" than most would give it credit.