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    Quote Originally Posted by damyanti View Post
    I do get your point, Amber, but I don't think you have gotten mine.
    And my point is...? *sits back and relaxes and waits to hear what I think*

    Quote Originally Posted by damyanti View Post
    My quote is a lovely sentiment...and some may find it interesting in the matters of sexuality and spirituality...but as a political strategy...you tried that twice and you lost both times. How about you try something else for a change, something Americans used to be so good at...keeping vigilance; "Evil prospers when good men do nothing", would be the more appropriate quote.
    You seem to be claiming a rather intimate knowledge of my particular stance in regard to American politics. In fact, I don't believe we've ever spoken to each other before, are you even sure of my nationality? There are a myriad of political positions out there, I rarely discuss mine on line so where is this rather pointed "you" coming from?

    Quote Originally Posted by damyanti View Post
    And if you are trying to tell me, as some, that its all in my head....that I have nothing to worry about.
    *checks my last post just to make sure* Nope, didn't recall telling you that, but I checked twice to make sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by damyanti View Post
    I am sorry, but based on their rhetoric and how easily they get away with misconstruing the truth...the very real possibility of McCain/Palin ticket scares the shit out of me. The same people who got Bush elected over and over again are working with them. You told us not to worry before Bush got elected the first time...are you really going to try to persuade me that that turned out well?
    *rereads prior post one more time to make sure I didn't miss something I may have typed about trying to brainwash the OP* Doesn't look like I was trying to persuade you of that. And I'm fairly sure I didn't know you prior to the last election, or the one prior to that so I am going to say with certainty that I never patted you on the head and told you "not to worry" either.

    My point (now that I think we have cleared up what my point is not) is simply that a rant is noise and smoke and the same ineffective rhetoric as that it claims to rally against. There is power in words, and when they are used to insult and to point fingers, when they are littered with phrases such as, "why don't (fill in "offending" parties here) do this and this and that," and so on, well, they loose their ability to affect change and they simply add to the general sense of irritated apathy so many people nurture.

    Replace the "why" with "how" and "what." Instead of saying "why don't you..." say things like "how can I..." and "what can I..." Fill in the ends of those sentences with something useful, then back the sentiment with action. If you're passionate about the political scene, start a thread with something like, "I have issues wih the political climate in the US so I have started a blog detailing false statements in candidate speeches," or "I have put together a list of political positions that Obama has that I agree with and here's why..."

    The best way to make someone "shut up" is not to rant as they do and tell them to stuff it, but to affect changes and take action that make their words obviously transparent and ineffective.

    Perhaps they are missed in the international media, but there are some busy busy folks in the US who are the forefront of very agressive political grassroots campaigns for both of the candidates. Young voters and even those too young to vote are flooding the scene en masse to communicate the changes they want and feel they need - more young people, in fact, than have been involved in an election at this level in a very long time.

    If these action takers, these passionate hard workers are being overlooked by the media and by international onlookers, so be it. The deep river, it appears, is indeed flowing with very little sound. No matter, they'll make their noise at the polls in November.
    Last edited by DowntownAmber; 09-19-2008 at 12:33 AM.

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