Why don't Americans have Evangelicals shut up?

[damyanti]

I believe the one sided pretence comes from the obvious pounding on the conservatives and glorifing the liberals through out the vast majority of the "rant" however unintentional the claim to the otherwise may be, it is too apparent.

Both parties of which are just as bad as the other when it comes to political tricks, sophism and propagandizing dogma.

The complaceny of the people being the real culpurit in the topic (i assume). Which isnt inheirently the cuase of any one party or group.

The point is that attacking or highlighting one groups deficiencies isnt helping the argument as it obfuscates it with all the clutter of partisanship political leanings.

Complacency of the citizen body has allways been the downfall of every great nation from rome to great brittian to russia to the usa.

Many have argued counter points to all of the above in numerous politically orientated threads painting one side or the other as the bad guys.

The system itself is the real culprit.

Like the many evolutions of representative governemental systems of the past, once a certian threshold in size and scope is reached; a certian degree of lethergy is experienced on the part of the populace and a certian degree of tyranny is realized by those in charge.

That has been one of my original questions....where does this animosity of "middle America" towards those who label themselves liberal and intellectual coming from?

I am not enamored with Obama (I have a very healthy dose of skepticism towards any politician and lofty claims), but as far as lesser evils go, he is pretty good one.....and if the other choice are Palin and McCain.

There is nothing shameful and immoral in being a liberal, and irony is a lot of the liberals lead far more conservative lives than those who spew hateful, neo conservative propaganda.

I do agree that Democrats are guilty of not speaking up and taking a stand, and many of them are far from saints...but even the worst Democrat who is guilty "of to political tricks, sophism and propagandizing dogma" seems like a pathetically week amateur compared to those who have been calling the shots on the Republican side.

When it comes to foreign policy, (and what is my primary concern) Democrats certainly seem like a more reasonable and humane option....I will sleep a lot more peacefully if I know that on the other side of the negotiating with Medvedev (could someone please inform Palin, that Putin is no longer the president of Russia) and Putin (he is the current prime minister) sits Biden.

Being liberal means that everyone has the right to their own beliefs, but the law is impartial and equal to all...that used to be the American way. We have a very clear impression that it no longer is.

I don't recall anyone thumping religion as the core issue during Clinton presidency,...during his presidency the world had very little problem accepting the USA role as world cop...economy was in a pretty good state too...and can you even remember what the price of gas was at that time (it seems like fiction today). No body in American history ever got everything so catastrophically wrong as Bush did...arguably, at the end of Clinton presidency world was moving towards the goal of world peace, today, at the end of Bushs we are moving towards the third world war. Bush pretty much, with no consequences and very little blatant opposition, ignored system of checks and balances. So yes, I don't know where I get the idea that one side is less evil than the other.

I am not comfortable with people who have a unilateral view of everything, absolute belief that they have divine blessing and unless its their way...its gun to your face and you are labeled the enemy. (And there doesnt seem to be the outrage of general public of such rhetoric.) Every time I hear Palin speak she cements it a little bit more that she is one such individual; and if anything, she is hailed as the voice of ordinary Americans.

People who have no respect for diplomacy and are very comfortable wielding weapons...are dangerous and scare me. War should always be the very, very absolute last solution - not something you do easily and without blinking. And when you go to war, it would be desirable to think things through.

Is Obama going to be the great president and make all the wrongs right...hardly unlikely, but chances are good that he wont make things worse, while with McCain/Palin things are practically guaranteed to deteriorate, (possibly to the point of unimaginable).