Yes good points that no matter how much time you spend, kids can still go haywire.

However, to cite my own experience, my parents practically told me how often to breathe. They were so damn strict I just ran away. I started when I was about 2 years old, but didn't make it until I was 15. They kept bringing me back.

It's more than just being there- 'taking a true interest' as Anya said is a part of it. Being consistent, listening to questions instead of saying 'WHAT??'

No guarantees, but to me it gives a kid a better chance at least. I wouldn't know, my old man was a bully, a control freak & had no idea how to live in the real world. As for Mum- well never mind, this isn't about my parents....

(We're over all that, remember Tojo? All those support groups...now don't start talking to yourself again.)

Tojo