hi, i agree with euryleia above. I started by writing stories, and chatting/role-playing with likeminded people on here, then after a few drinks came out with it all - my husband was fine about it - doesnt necessarily want to join me (although has spanked me and tied me up as a consequence of our conversation) - i however would like to be collared and serve him (with kids of course it is difficult) but he just isnt into the giving orders/dom thing - s'ok i'll take what he can give and get the rest from here - its a case of taking the bull by the horns maybe. Pick your moment, come round to it gently, do as euryleia said above - write about it - thats what i did, he read the stories, said how horny they made him and then i surprised him big style by admitting that i was the author - he was so proud of me - suddenly not just a 'wife and mum' but the old sexy lady he married. Just one perspective, hope u can find your way, and if not hope to chat with you on here. love2serve