Quote Originally Posted by blythespirit View Post
Women, imho, always had value. Even when they were nothing more then chattel, albeit a very singular type of property. They had value because they alone could "give birth."

I would venture to say that more men "died" in history to protect that which was his, namely womenfolk, than those women who faught to be liberated from gentlemenfolk, who rose when a lady entered the room, who opened doors and relieved her from heavy labor and protected her reputation.

Even the lowliest of woman escaped first from the Titanic. I just wonder, if the boys being raised today would not push their way past these women to extricate themselves from the sinking ship...because women are now just as equal as they.

Sorry, blythespirit, but having value and being valued are two very different things.

If it gives you pleasure to blame other women knock yourself out, but you have a very romanticized and very inaccurate view of history.

And your last paragraph...how does being good at my job and wanting freedom to make my own decisions, ends up equal asking to be pushed around and treated rudely? Boys are being raised to disrespect women because women are equal now? So they don't respect other men, their friends, fathers? And please look around...women are still far from being equal.



(This isnt directed at you! I just didn't feel like double posting)

It has been my experience that women who proclaim that they are not feminists are the ones who just want to stay home, go shopping, do nothing and have a "sponsor" who pays for it all and are too conceited to lift a finger. They want to be treated like a lady. In Europe we call them WAGs, and if thats a lady,...I prefer to buy my own handbags. To me a man is a person, not a wallet.