BDSM And Feminism: Intertwined? How So?

[denuseri]

Fine, let me ask you this - what does it mean to be a feminist? Who is a feminist?

Feminist is according to the Oxford dictionary "one who practices feminism.

Feminism being according to the same reference scource: "A noun refering to a movement or theory (yes a theory!!) supporting womens rights on the grounds of equality of the sexes.

A therory that I quite simply dont subscribe too. Especially the more emasculating practices that such thinking supports. To say "woman is equal to man" is to say there is no need for a differential catagory of being, humankind has tewo distinct sexes with different capabilities geared toawrds thier respective roles in life. To say that we are in effect the same is preposterous. Especially when the reality however is that we are in fact different in a great number of ways. The theory is in effect parenthitically impossible by definition.

I am in no way shape or form "equal" to anyone else least of all the other half of the species who's bio-ethical makeup is geared to a different role.

Of course the code of virture ethics i subscribe to hasnt been twisted by the feminist movement into a transvaluated imaginary playing field where the "reality" of what is and is not`~ is derived not from the observational logic; but from emotive conjecture.



Because to me being a feminist means that I am respected as a human being, that my opinions are not rejected just because I am a woman, or my "place" predetermined just by my gender. Because yes, if you say that you are not a feminist, then what are you? To me it means that you have a mold, into which women should fit.

Honestly If you do study history the female of the species has been held in great reguard by many. Respect has allways been a two way street between man and woman.
Ergo a woman's opinions are not to be catagorically dismissed just becuase of her sex. A womans "place" has never been soley determined just becuase of her sex, (even though biology has predetermined her primary role) too many other variables have allways applied to every situation. I can come up with just as many examples to support this statement as you can to refute it so dont even bother we will end up filling the entire forum lol.

Biology , a supreme being or beings, the force, what have you, and millions of years of evolution have allready predetermined the vast majority of your "place" within nature, (just as it has with everything else living) that you rail against it as a "feminist" doesnt mean your genitic makeup or chemical structure is going to change to accomadate your beliefs.

As they say in anatomy and phisiology: "structure equals function"

My structure is that of a woman not that of a man. By oxfords deffinition I am not in the slightest a feminist becuase to me a feminist is being untruthful and illogical to both herself and others in her persistant belief in an illogical theory.

But to me thats just it, you cant put all women down into a mold as if they all want the same thing. Just as all women don't want to be touched the same way, not all women want their doors held. Just because most women choose so called female professions, why does that mean that the one who wants to be a truck driver has to go through hell and all the put downs, and even antagonism from other women because she is not "a lady"?

The feminists (ironically) themselves are the bigest "mold" makers and "putters" by assuming all wemon should fit into thier twisted catagorical quest for unacheivable utopian equality.

Individual bias and discrimination doesnt require a non-sensical "theroy" or movement to combat it, it only needs moral fortitude and common sence.

To me feminism is about freedom and choice, many choices - a freedom to be a kajira, a stay at home mum, a carpenter, not to marry, and a right to do with your body as you want - so when someone says "I am not a feminist," what I hear is, "Only my choice is right, and all the others who don't fall into that mold, should be forcefully brought into the flock or eliminated". Because thats what it comes down to, so I have an equal distaste for those "militant" feminists and those who puff their chest and say that they aren't - because to me its a sign of ultimate disrespect and ungratefulness to all those women who came before them (throughout history) and fought to break the mold.

You apparently by your own definition are not what I or oxford would call a feminist.

To me feminism is about being forced by societal peer pressure to conform into an un-natural-state of behavior that results in unfufilment on a physical, mental and spiritual level becuase it attempts to emasculate and gender nutralize our society as a whole.
I refuse to conform to it becuase I would have to convince myself that somthing that is a "lie" is instead somhow illogically the "truth".

When someone says "I am not a feminist," what I hear is: Oh good another woman has reialized how the wool was pulled over her eyes, mabey there is some hope yet. To bad the "feminists" are going to brand and hunt us for choosing not to conform to the "role" they have established for the flock and we will perhaps be eliminated for standing up to them. Because thats what it comes down to.

I have an equal distaste for feminists, militant or otherwise, especially those who puff their chest and say that I am somehow wrong or oppressed or am disrespecting my vernable elders memory- because I embrace my nature like so many of the women preceding me so honorably did.

To me "feminism" is a sign of the ultimate disrespect and ungratefulness to all those women who came before us, period.[/