Quote Originally Posted by Ragoczy View Post
Regardless of one's stance on whether we should have gone into Iraq in the first place, we're there -- and his stated willingness to abandon twenty-five million people to terrorists and sectarian violence, I find reprehensible. Even if you think the mess is all our fault, doesn't that mean we should try to help the Iraqis clean it up? Even a vacuum
Oh goody Americans who screwed it up are now going to clean it up. If? You invaded the wrong country, your establishment fabricated evidance and when one claim after another was prooven false, you simply made up another.

Its this superiority attitude and arrogance, which we have no idea where you derive it from, that breeds anti-american contempt. Your country is two hundred years old. Iraq, historically known as Mesopotamia, has been here since the start of the civilization, we are talking thousands of years. My country was founded in the seventh century. What gives you the right to meddle into our business? What gives you the right to tell us how to live?

I do believe Ragoczy that you are a noble man, one with values and that your attentions are good. But I have a first hand experiance where US presence prolonged the war unnecessarily and murkied things up. Its their land, you invaded it with no justifiable cause and you are continuing that occupation against their will. Sectarian violence? Again, its none of your business, its up to them to either learn to coexist or fight it out. You cant stop that, and as long as you are there terrorists will prosper.