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denuseri Gorean Philosophies 08-20-2008, 07:43 AM
littlepet I just find what I've read of... 09-11-2008, 01:05 PM
denuseri I know what you are saying. ... 09-11-2008, 07:00 PM
littlepet Hey Seri, Point of... 09-12-2008, 07:19 AM
MacGuffin the part where it becomes... 09-12-2008, 08:06 AM
orchidsoul Interestingly enough, many... 09-12-2008, 08:35 AM
littlepet Hey MacGuffin, On the... 09-12-2008, 10:27 AM
Thorne Actually, parents have to... 09-12-2008, 11:20 AM
denuseri Thanks orchidsoul you said... 09-12-2008, 10:49 AM
MacGuffin Pleasure to meet you... 09-12-2008, 12:04 PM
littlepet Seri, I never ever once... 09-12-2008, 12:13 PM
littlepet Hey Macguffin, I think we may... 09-12-2008, 12:20 PM
MacGuffin orchidsoul Care to give an... 09-12-2008, 12:23 PM
orchidsoul yeah- I don't want to thread... 09-12-2008, 02:58 PM
littlepet hahaha, or...in my previous... 09-12-2008, 01:05 PM
denuseri Well i dont mind thread... 09-12-2008, 01:26 PM
Ragoczy I, for one, would like to see... 09-12-2008, 01:49 PM
littlepet Seri, I have no need to... 09-12-2008, 01:55 PM
littlepet Ragoczy, I thought I had... 09-12-2008, 01:57 PM
Kuskovian "So, to start some questions... 09-12-2008, 05:06 PM
damyanti Now, did you really have to... 09-15-2008, 03:46 AM
MacGuffin orchidsoul - With that being... 09-13-2008, 05:08 AM
orchidsoul With the exception of the... 09-14-2008, 02:22 PM
Kwong Hi just wondering is this... 09-13-2008, 09:26 AM
Ragoczy So how do you two, following... 09-13-2008, 11:01 AM
Ragoczy In a curious coincidence,... 09-14-2008, 11:47 AM
denuseri By Kwong: "Hi just wondering... 09-14-2008, 01:02 PM
denuseri I believe what my owner is... 09-15-2008, 11:57 AM
damyanti I never had prejudice against... 09-15-2008, 12:17 PM
orchidsoul I think you hit the nail on... 09-15-2008, 03:03 PM
Ironwulf I just wanted to stop in and... 09-27-2008, 01:33 PM
goldendawn i have read every post in... 10-04-2008, 09:21 PM
~blue~ A book contains a story. And... 10-04-2008, 11:27 PM
Thorne Many followers of the Bible... 10-05-2008, 08:01 AM
sinderella my introduction into the... 11-10-2008, 03:22 PM
denuseri Yes orchid it is. i have... 09-15-2008, 08:34 PM
orchidsoul thanks Denuseri! And... 09-16-2008, 05:51 AM
denuseri The following are two quotes... 09-21-2008, 12:23 PM
orchidsoul I continue to love this... 10-09-2008, 03:35 AM
Kuskovian We ourselves participated in... 09-27-2008, 03:24 PM
denuseri Goldendawn: Thanku so very... 10-04-2008, 11:24 PM
denuseri As Goldendawn so eloquently... 10-04-2008, 11:38 PM
goldendawn i didn't realize silkandsteel... 10-08-2008, 08:07 PM
denuseri Goldendawn: Honest to... 10-08-2008, 11:28 PM
damyanti I love pink too, but boys... 10-09-2008, 02:58 AM
AdrianaAurora Not in favor of burning books... 10-11-2008, 04:25 AM
goldendawn [QUOTE=denuseri;725735]Goldend... 10-09-2008, 08:25 PM
denuseri "Do not ask the stones or the... 10-10-2008, 04:08 PM
RickBulow74 denuseri, you had just... 11-28-2008, 06:43 AM
Matin just something small on my... 11-29-2008, 01:08 AM
denuseri "In ancient Attica it is said... 10-11-2008, 09:34 AM
AdrianaAurora You sure have an ability to... 10-11-2008, 10:43 AM
Kuskovian Back we go again to the... 10-11-2008, 04:29 PM
Torq OK,,ALLLLL I see its that... 10-11-2008, 04:46 PM
Ragoczy As I continue to read this... 10-12-2008, 11:40 AM
denuseri Thank you so much for your... 10-12-2008, 01:26 PM
Kuskovian Yes Ragoczy, you have found... 10-12-2008, 04:26 PM
Thorne Ragoczy At last, a well... 10-12-2008, 06:53 PM
Torq doubtful,, very doubtful T 10-12-2008, 07:25 PM
goldendawn denuseri stated the purpose... 10-12-2008, 08:33 PM
Ragoczy What I meant to convey is... 10-14-2008, 02:59 PM
Thorne Well said. The people in this... 10-14-2008, 08:22 PM
goldendawn . 10-12-2008, 09:01 PM
denuseri Thanks so much for that... 10-13-2008, 01:16 AM
Kuskovian Well I for one am all for the... 10-15-2008, 04:46 PM
craven could not agree more big k,... 10-16-2008, 01:04 AM
denuseri Which brings us to the... 10-16-2008, 12:54 PM
Ironwulf @Ragoczy I sure wish I had... 10-23-2008, 12:33 AM
denuseri Anothers views on Gor The... 10-27-2008, 12:49 PM
walkingdude225 the books very interresting... 10-28-2008, 09:50 AM
denuseri I dont know about different... 10-28-2008, 10:45 AM
walkingdude225 I hate to sound like a... 10-28-2008, 06:44 PM
denuseri A pleasure slave's primary... 10-28-2008, 10:11 PM
walkingdude225 thank you for explaining the... 10-29-2008, 02:33 PM
denuseri Often times a slave is put in... 10-29-2008, 11:30 PM
walkingdude225 What types of responsibility ... 10-30-2008, 08:10 AM
denuseri This is really just a summary... 10-30-2008, 11:53 AM
walkingdude225 i understand; it actually... 10-30-2008, 12:19 PM
denuseri Read the thread from the... 10-30-2008, 02:23 PM
RickBulow74 Thank you for bringing this... 10-31-2008, 12:17 PM
denuseri lol, too true too true... 11-03-2008, 04:46 PM
walkingdude225 so let me get this stairt the... 11-03-2008, 08:37 PM
denuseri Pretty much, I know their are... 11-03-2008, 09:42 PM
hopperboo Ahh... I am reading the... 11-03-2008, 10:27 PM
denuseri LMAO Hopper Hugs and... 11-03-2008, 10:50 PM
hopperboo I ordered it from B&N. :) ... 11-03-2008, 10:58 PM
walkingdude225 that sucks but thanks for the... 11-03-2008, 11:02 PM
hopperboo Nah, it doesn't suck at all. ... 11-03-2008, 11:18 PM
denuseri I am gonna start getting them... 11-04-2008, 12:14 AM
walkingdude225 Ture, can i ask what is the... 11-05-2008, 09:01 PM
denuseri Sure thing sweetie, They... 11-05-2008, 09:55 PM
walkingdude225 cool i'll start buying one at... 11-05-2008, 10:21 PM
denuseri In the books everything from... 11-12-2008, 11:59 AM
sinderella i had one of those songs one... 11-12-2008, 04:05 PM
walkingdude225 Thanks for the clear up :) 11-19-2008, 09:33 PM
denuseri Now there are some other... 11-19-2008, 05:16 PM
denuseri "The needs of human beings... 11-28-2008, 01:06 AM
denuseri A note about the use of "Tal"... 11-29-2008, 09:42 AM
walkingdude225 Gor seems very complex and... 11-29-2008, 10:47 AM
RickBulow74 There are a few good gorean... 11-29-2008, 11:11 AM
denuseri The only official site I know... 11-29-2008, 11:45 AM
E.C. Holland den, I owe you a... 11-29-2008, 04:08 PM
denuseri In my humble opinion what... 11-30-2008, 11:52 AM
E.C. Holland Hume's point (and mine, too)... 11-30-2008, 01:24 PM
RickBulow74 That is a good one. One that... 11-29-2008, 05:12 PM
denuseri The obligation is (i repeat)... 11-30-2008, 03:10 PM
E.C. Holland If it's the place of men to... 11-30-2008, 03:44 PM
denuseri This is anything even... 12-01-2008, 01:07 AM
E.C. Holland Are there individual women... 12-10-2008, 07:03 PM
walkingdude225 Don't take this the worng way... 12-01-2008, 09:51 PM
E.C. Holland I'm confused about whether... 12-10-2008, 07:15 PM
denuseri That depends on ones... 12-01-2008, 10:17 PM
walkingdude225 ok, that makes sense 12-02-2008, 01:53 PM
Flaming_Redhead This thread is fascinating! ... 12-09-2008, 06:46 PM
denuseri Hey sisa feel free to ask all... 12-10-2008, 02:28 PM
denuseri So then by that suposition... 12-10-2008, 10:26 PM
E.C. Holland Here you differ from all the... 12-10-2008, 11:08 PM
denuseri I think we are... 12-11-2008, 03:10 PM
E.C. Holland "It is the nature of the... 12-11-2008, 04:38 PM
RickBulow74 I believe you had taken the... 12-12-2008, 03:01 PM
E.C. Holland Rick, I'm grateful for the... 12-14-2008, 09:59 PM
denuseri Ahh thanku for finding the... 12-11-2008, 06:16 PM
E.C. Holland What in God's name are you... 12-11-2008, 08:10 PM
RickBulow74 EC, I apologize if it came... 12-15-2008, 03:23 PM
denuseri <<has allready answered the... 12-16-2008, 08:26 PM
denuseri Just bumping the thread for... 06-12-2011, 12:17 PM
ksst This is interesting, and from... 01-20-2012, 05:32 PM
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    Thanks so much for that goldendawn.

    You are very correct, we did want to discuss more than just our own way of doing bdsm and incorperating the philosophies of the books.

    As with all philosophies one must be carfeful what they incorperate into thier own lives.

    We believe the books and Norman are pretty clear whats acceptable on earth and what is not. One principle from the books we have chosen to emulate is a Gorean respect for the laws of a place. As such we believe one should respect the law. This means one doesnt go about abusing or fully enslaveing anyone, and by enslavement i do mean chattel slavery not the pc bdsm style one that most sane people practice. Additionally we dont believe one should be wantonly cruel or malisious with thier submissive.

    TPE is allways a sticky wicket that is all too easily turned from something bueatiful into something ugly. To use somthing from another philosophy: Lets look at Aristotles golden mean. One extreme of TPE would have the submissive in dire straights lacking even the will to think for herself etc, let alone move. The other extreme would be complete and utter freedom or worse the submissive in charge whilst the dom cowers in the oposite extreme. Aristotle said its the middle ground that is best for mankind to follow ergo the "golden mean". Which is what we try to do and what we believe Norman is telling us as human beings is the best way for men and women to exist in harmony.

    I am unfortunate in that my first experience with it was allmost my last as it very nearly cost me my life or worse and i am still recovering from it as it was certianly on the far end of the TPE to point of truely being criminal. (i was very lucky to have survived it and be saved by my owner from it)yet becuase my second and current TPE relationship i am in now is a very wonderful one I am very happy. I work , I go to school, I am under his will, yet i am under my own voalition in following his will while out and about. In effect I am allowed to thrive.

    I am not saying it is wrong for some people, only that we dont believe the books even remotely promote such a type of total enslavment as especially for people on earth, gorean or otherwise.

    One can never warn people enough to be safe and careful in thier dealings. Trust is a vital commodity, especially in bdsm. Too many would be dominants embrace a false sence of sadism to the exclusion of the responsibility that is inhierent with assuming dominion over a submissive.
    Last edited by denuseri; 10-13-2008 at 01:22 AM.
    When love beckons to you, follow him,Though his ways are hard and steep. And when his wings enfold you yield to him, Though the sword hidden among his pinions may wound thee
    KAHLIL GIBRAN, The Prophet

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