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Rational Head The Morality of Abortion! 10-23-2008, 09:13 AM
Muskan I don’t care about what... 10-23-2008, 10:19 AM
lucy That theory doesn't hold up,... 10-23-2008, 10:20 AM
Muskan One should think twice before... 10-23-2008, 10:23 AM
denuseri And I quote: "I swear by... 10-23-2008, 11:12 AM
Laila I am not a friend of... 10-23-2008, 12:20 PM
Thorne Well said, Laila. I just want... 10-23-2008, 01:11 PM
mkemse Thank you my point exactly... 10-23-2008, 01:23 PM
mkemse To me the reality of Abortion... 10-23-2008, 12:51 PM
AdrianaAurora Very often (especially in US)... 10-23-2008, 02:32 PM
Ragoczy Is it moral to kill someone?... 10-23-2008, 02:44 PM
AdrianaAurora It on itself its neither... 10-23-2008, 02:57 PM
Ragoczy So if society decides that... 10-23-2008, 03:05 PM
AdrianaAurora So I do have a choice? ... 10-23-2008, 03:20 PM
the_moirae Not even addressing the... 10-23-2008, 03:09 PM
Ragoczy It's absolutely relevant. ... 10-23-2008, 03:56 PM
SnickerKitten I drove a friend of mine to a... 10-23-2008, 08:23 PM
hopperboo I agree. My... 10-23-2008, 08:34 PM
damyanti When people use “I believe”... 10-24-2008, 12:24 AM
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lucy deleted because i'm not sure... 10-24-2008, 12:56 AM
lucy I have yet to meet a woman... 10-24-2008, 02:45 AM
lookingforsomething I have read through all the... 10-24-2008, 02:59 AM
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Thorne Third trimester? Not... 10-24-2008, 02:04 PM
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damyanti Is that what you think... 10-23-2008, 02:49 PM
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craven I am not sure of this thread... 10-23-2008, 04:16 PM
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craven So to make your point or... 10-23-2008, 04:50 PM
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AdrianaAurora The rhetoric on abortion... 10-24-2008, 03:40 AM
craven Each case is different and... 10-23-2008, 04:17 PM
Ragoczy One of the government's role... 10-23-2008, 04:18 PM
Muskan I personally think that war,... 10-23-2008, 05:06 PM
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mkemse Why not, Freedom Of Speach... 03-01-2009, 05:30 PM
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Skyybird Whilst it's difficult to... 10-25-2008, 02:30 AM
Thorne It's always bothered me that... 10-25-2008, 06:31 AM
Skyybird Being parents blinkers our... 10-25-2008, 08:01 AM
Laila Well said, Skyybird. I... 10-25-2008, 03:15 AM
denuseri It is my opinion that the... 10-25-2008, 08:30 AM
damyanti Abortion in Ancient Greece... 10-25-2008, 03:03 PM
Thorne Well done, damyanti! Nice... 10-25-2008, 07:00 PM
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jezabel This is a VERY emotive issue... 10-25-2008, 11:26 AM
mkemse I have NO doubt about what... 10-25-2008, 01:38 PM
~faerie~ This is an extremely hard... 10-26-2008, 08:42 PM
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    When people use “I believe” and therefore it shouldn't be “allowed” reasoning its a very dangerous ground, as witnessed throughout history.

    My personal moral views are conservative (in some cases extremely so), but that's all they are MY morals, it would be immoral to force them upon someone else. Laws should be liberal. I don't think government or anyone else has the right to pass judgement in that kind of decisions.

    Its very easy to pass judgement in theory, but human reality is different...every human is different, we deal and react to situations differently.

    Legality of abortion is such a sensitive question because it is never that simple, it isn't just about terminating pregnancy...its about personal liberties, a right to choice, invasion of privacy, someone else making decisions concerning your body...

    How many people, including those who say they are pro life, eat meat? I believe that is immoral, I believe its against religion, I believe that its murder and its a sin.....but I just don't have enough...(not quite sure which word to use) arrogance, shamelessness, to say that it should not be allowed at all or made illegal for everyone else too. Its a matter of personal choice...whether one will do something just because he/she can.

    Most people find the idea of eating meat much easier without thinking that it once was a living being, they find it easier to think of it as ham rather than animal corpse. And lets not forget that humans are animals too. So if we are to ban abortion based on the premise that life is life, it will make possible to ban animal killing.

    No contraception is 100% reliable.

    To force a victim of rape to have a child...I find the idea horrifying beyond imagination, to me its more violating than rape itself.

    Where is the prudence in creating teenage mothers, how is that good for society?

    As for making all abortion illegal...its pointless. As it has been pointed out several times before, if a woman wants to have an abortion she will not matter whether its legal or illegal she will find a way. There will always be doctors or butchers in back ally offering their services. We have an abortion pill available today. There are old “remedies” such as herbal teas. Even those who officially think its wrong want a legal loophole just in case (Ireland has voted five times in the past 20 years on its abortion laws, most recently deciding to continue to allow women to have an abortion if they say they are suicidal - a loophole the government and Catholic Church wanted closed).

    I am interested what kind of punishment would those who seek to make abortion illegal impose on unwilling mothers?

    I do think that its immoral to use abortion as a form of contraception...it should be the very last resort, and its why I preach education, education, education...but would it be any less immoral to force that woman to go through pregnancy and have an unwanted child? Will those people who coerced her into having it, take responsibility for that child...my guess is no, so isn't that immoral?

    Personally, I have no intention of finding myself in such situation, but who knows what life brings...could I go through with it, I don't know, I am tilting towards no, but it would depend on the circumstances....what I do know is that I am more likely to keep it if I have a choice than I would be if abortion were illegal.

    I feel lucky that I live in a country where the right to choice is a given fact. We are characterized as a conservative, Catholic country, yet it was never an issue, certainly not in my lifetime and it was never a point of debate in an election campaign. Sometime ago someone mentioned something about abortion being an active issue in US and therefore we should make it here too, (God, I hate when European politicians try to copy American ones), but no one took the said person seriously (as evidenced by the fact I cant even remember who it was), he was labelled an extremest loonie, people paid him no attention and no one ever made a peep about it again.

    My point is...whether you think its immoral is irrelevant – a woman's body, a woman's choice. It doesn't concern you.
    Last edited by damyanti; 10-24-2008 at 12:29 AM.

    "Men had either been afraid of her, or had thought her so strong that she didn't need their consideration. He hadn't been afraid, and had given her the feeling of constancy she needed. While he, the orphan, found in her many women in one: mother sister lover sibyl friend. When he thought himself crazy she was the one who believed in his visions." - Salman Rushdie, the Satanic Verses

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