Women

[Ayla Silver]

This thread is kinda funny.....and I will resist getting into it myself for fear of....getting into it.

[Tojo]

Ayla, thanks for inspiring me to do the same.


Sometimes it's better to say nothing than say something when you have nothing to say.


Tojo

[Aesop]

Hey folks I hope you all ain't afraid to post because of Aesop the snarling fox. lol

I really enjoy a good debate and hope to have and participate in a bunch of them in the future here, but I can't allow the flames to fly. So as long as everybody keeps to the topic at hand then everybody will be fine.

[Ozme52]

Hey folks I hope you all ain't afraid to post because of Aesop the snarling fox. lol

I really enjoy a good debate and hope to have and participate in a bunch of them in the future here, but I can't allow the flames to fly. So as long as everybody keeps to the topic at hand then everybody will be fine.

It's not you dude....

[submissivewife]

Was it me?

[Ozme52]

LOL No!!

[Tojo]

Nope wasn't Aesop or subwife that scared me off- although subwife was a bit scary....
It's just a debate that isn't going anywhere.

Tojo

[DungeonMaster6]

Personally, I don't aspire to the notion that gender difference is the cause of misunderstanding or miscommunication. Although, I'm in agreement with those who believe that some people use it as a convenient excuse.

I work in an office that is overwhelmingly staffed by females, most of whom I communicate with well. If there has been any clashes, their causes have been personality differences, which could happen with other males as well. Gender has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not I communicate with someone. In a job situation, most of the communicating is strictly job related anyway.

On a personal note, I went through an emotionally draining experience with a woman, but that was twenty years ago. That one event, however, did not sour me toward all women. In fact, as a group, I love having the opposite gender around. The woman I'm with now has been here for ten years. Sure there have been miscommications from time to time as in any relationship. But the fact that we are opposite genders is irrelevant.

[submissivewife]

Nope wasn't Aesop or subwife that scared me off- although subwife was a bit scary....
It's just a debate that isn't going anywhere.

Tojo

Your right this conversation has gone no where. Sorry Tojo....didn't mean to be scary.

[Tojo]

Oh I like a sub with a mind of their own & who can stand up for themselves subwife- it's great to see.

I'd like to see some of these wannabee Doms with my girls- they'd be chewed up & spat out in 2 seconds flat!

Stay scary- I love it!

Tojo

[submissivewife]

Oh I like a sub with a mind of their own & who can stand up for themselves subwife- it's great to see.

I'd like to see some of these wannabee Doms with my girls- they'd be chewed up & spat out in 2 seconds flat!

Stay scary- I love it!

Tojo

Don't worry I will continue to be me. I'll admit, sometimes I scare even me. lol

[Ozme52]

I'd like to see some of these wannabee Doms with my girls- they'd be chewed up & spat out in 2 seconds flat!

Tojo

There's nothing like a challenge.....

[poptart]

We all have operated irrationally and then rationalised our actions, we can only be fully honest about ourselves by standing outside ourselves as well as being fully aware of our motives.


The hardest person you will ever face in your life time is yourself.
I do it often, step outside myself and take a deep look at who I am and who I want to be, can be scary at times.

poptart

[Alex Bragi]

After a particularly nasty experience with a woman I had a relationship of sorts with, I took somewhat of a step back from relationships and spent a lot of time reading philosophy. This was as much due to my health as much as anything else I should add.

I'm sorry to read about your "nasty experience", and I hope your health is improving now.

I was reading Schoppenhauer who is a bit of a misogynist and came across this quote which pretty much summed up my experience...

"Hence, it will be found that the fundamental fault of the female character is...(Blah-blah)....Nature has assigned to them as the weaker sex...(Blah-blah)... (Blurh!)

Schoppenhauer? Well, to be perfectly honest, I'd never heard of the fellow before I saw his name here, so I googled him.

Now really, I ask you, how relevant to us are the ramblings of man, who was born only a few years after the last woman was burnt at the stake for being a 'witch'? I mean he lived in the wake of possibly the most dogmatic era of Germany, and surely one of the darkest periods in history for women. So, it's quite obvious, to me, what gave this fruity philosopher his odd view of the fair sex.

I think, too, it's important to remember that, in the past, women needed to be "submissive" long before biblical times; for millions of years women were reliant on men's physical strength to provide and protection.

I suppose it's been an inherent attitude that men are physically stronger, and therefore women must submit to their power, or perish at their own peril. Why, even as recently as last century women were considered second rate to the brawnier of our species. However, in our new technology driven world, this attitude is rapidly changing. It's interesting to see, as we move into the 21-century and beyond, as we rely more on our mental abilities, how women are becoming less dependent on men for their material needs.

Ah, but I digress..

Recent studies show that women are actually better at communicating than men and, sorry, just to make all you guys out there feel worse, researchers also concludes that women make better investment decisions than men. A survey by "Digital Look", a British financial website, found that women consistently earn higher returns for their investments.

Yes, Sir (Ma'am?), right now women are surely, economically speaking, the modern world's most under utilised resource.

Ah, but I digress yet again...

As it's already be stated here, men and women think very differently. I feel it's just something that's evolved. While women have perhaps needed to develop into better communicationers to survive and manipulate their physically stronger mates, men in their dominance have not, and therefore have not developed the same skills.

So, maybe what you've really got ask is, not "Are there miscommunications merely an excuse, or are there major differences in the sexes that prevent open communication? But, can a few decades of social engineering change millions of years of human evolution?

[cheeseburger]

This thread is kinda funny.....and I will resist getting into it myself for fear of....getting into it.

qft

[Kraven]

I think that original quote had a few typos.. so I fixed them.. well as best I coud from memory....

Hence, it will be found that the fundamental fault of the male character is that it has and exaggerated sense of self-serving justice. This is mainly due to the fact, already mentioned, that men are defective in the power of reasoning and deliberation; but it is also traceable to the position which Nature has assigned to them as the stronger sex, which is to say physically stronger, not necessarily mentally superior. They are dependent upon strength, not craft, and hence their instinctive incapacity for cunning, and their incredible tendency not to say anything, but to simply act in their own self-interest.

On a serious note.. any discussion about one gender being better than the other.. is doomed from the start. It's going to be littered with personal experience and not based on anything worth being used as a foundation. People are so diverse that it's truly a fool's errand to try and make such broad sweeping generalizations to encompass something like 3 billion people (aren't there 6 billion folks on the planet? Or are we getting near 7?)

Wow, I woke up today.. with big words in my head. I'm glad I got them out.. now can someone translate what I said so I can understand it??

[rosember]

Are the sexes bound to miscommunicate? I do not think that by nature of their sexes, people are doomed to miscommunication, but by their very nature as people. I would say most miscommunication is not gender related, but personality related.
Yes, women think with both the emotional and logical sides of their brain, and men tend to think with just the logical, but that in and of itself does not explain the constant miscommunications among people, or those who tend to relate better to those of the opposite sex.
People are people. Some are easy to get along with, others are not. It is our experiences and our education and our personalities that determine how we communicate, not our gender alone. I think you seriously understate the issue here. Jsut my $.02