The Socialistic Shit-Case

[Thorne]

I'm sorry but I'm afraid I think you are lacking compassion. You have been very lucky in your life and you have obviously been raised with a good sense of responsibility for yourself and your family. Sadly, through no fault of their own, many other people in this world have not.

I hope to god you never loose your home and your income.

Life is just not that black and white.

I think I do have compassion, just not for every sick little puppy that crosses my path. If a young mother gets injured or killed by a drunk driver, certainly her kids will need to be helped. Preferably by the drunk who's responsible. He has his own family? Fine! Let half his income go to helping the family he deprived of a mother. Sure, that deprives his family, but he should have thought about that before getting behind the wheel drunk.

I feel sorry for a lot of people in this world, and I know things are not always black and white. Hardly ever, in fact. But there are still certain standards which we have developed in this country, and perhaps others, which deflect responsibility from those who should be held responsible and onto those who haven't done anything wrong but must pay for someone else's mistakes.

So, you have a young mother who can't afford to raise her own child? What should she do? Go out and have more children? That doesn't help anything. I know! Let's give her money and tell her that she'll be supported by society because she's just a poor unfortunate girl. Then she can learn that having kids will keep her from having to get a job. Isn't that brilliant?

I don't claim to know all the answers, either. I do know that education and a sense of personal responsibility will do more for people's lives than all the welfare in the world. Let's spend our money on those things, instead.

[Skyybird]

I don't claim to know all the answers, either. I do know that education and a sense of personal responsibility will do more for people's lives than all the welfare in the world. Let's spend our money on those things, instead.

I agree there are always going to be people who play the system, I'm not innocent enough to think everyone is honest and hard working. But working in the middle of these young people really does change one's beliefs. They dress and act so mature but yet inside they are still children and have no idea what they are getting into.

You are so right. We need to invest in our future generations with not just finances but with our skills and experience to give them the best life chances.

If a man under the influence of alcohol drives his car and kills a mother, his family should not have to suffer either....he will pay his debt as is prescribed by law. His children should not have to pay his debt for him.

It's easy to believe our own principles are correct, and virtuous, until it is us who stands in the shoes of those we judge.

[Thorne]

If a man under the influence of alcohol drives his car and kills a mother, his family should not have to suffer either....he will pay his debt as is prescribed by law. His children should not have to pay his debt for him.

I agree, they should not. Neither should the children of the woman he's killed, but they do. And neither should I have to pay his debt, yet I must help to pay for his incarceration as well as for those children, and probably for his children. Yet I don't know any of them and had nothing to do with the circumstances which caused the whole mess. Where's the justice in that?

There are charitable organizations and religious organizations which claim to help those in need, and those who feel the need can donate to those organizations. Let these groups handle the needs of those children.

[Skyybird]

I agree, they should not. Neither should the children of the woman he's killed, but they do. And neither should I have to pay his debt, yet I must help to pay for his incarceration as well as for those children, and probably for his children. Yet I don't know any of them and had nothing to do with the circumstances which caused the whole mess. Where's the justice in that?

So if your taxes do not contribute to the incarceration of criminals...exactly where are we to find the funding to hold these criminals if not in state run, tax payer funded, organised, consistent and humane circumstances?

There are charitable organizations and religious organizations which claim to help those in need, and those who feel the need can donate to those organizations. Let these groups handle the needs of those children.

Of course there are organisations of this calibre and I'm sure the family would be more than worthy of such assistance, but charities rely on the kindness of others and their pot of money is never big enough to help everyone. So how do we go about drawing the line? Where do we say yes to one family or victim and no to another?

I really do understand your reluctance to fund the consequences of another man's crime but can we really abandon one life in favour of another? How is that even humane?