As we established in the pervious thread I mentioned you so obviously have never been raped MMI.

Which by the way in the United States if you are a woman about to be raped and you kill your attacker it is considered justifiable homicide in self deffense in allmost all cases.

If I have a gun it does not in any way shape or form mean I do intend to kill someone at the drop of a hat, but I am prepared to do so if nessesary, if my life is threatened in such a way that I have no other recourse. BIG difference from the way you try to PAINT it MMI.

Plain and simple, gun control laws do not deter criminals in America and many other countries from using guns to commit crimes PERIOD.

They do however deprive the citizens of thier right to defend themselves with appropriately applied force if nessesary.

I also believe Diaz was phenominally brave and good if not a bit foolish. What he did was an urban miracle. Miracle being the opperative world (dont try this at home folks).

America has in no way shape or form lost control over society because its people believe in defending themselves when nessesary. We have laws in our counrty that allow us the freedom to defend ourselves unlike the Brittish, one reason we overthrew thier rule. Thank God/Goddess the Founding Fathers saw fit to make sure we keep this basic unalienable right to defend ourselves when so many others bow in fear to tyranny.