I've never heard of kajira before, but the description was fascinating for me. Thanks to everyone for your responses. Today I've been thinking that I'm not as tuned into the dhamma as I want to be these days. Ok, call it whatever you want; it's that feeling of knowing what the right thing to do is. I don't always have it, but in terms of food and sleep and work and workingout and meditating, I usually have a pretty good impulse that I often ignore. I think of acetics, not that that's my cup o', and I'm more than a little envious about the wholeheartedness of that submission.

But that's another thread, perhaps. One reason I ask you all about the sex-magic think is because of a strange occurance. About 9 years ago this time of year, I started sleeping with this guy, who was my one and only serious kinkster. I was not his primary girlfriend, but nonetheless, I felt like our time together was transcendent, for lack of a better word. Not to be cheesy. But there was an amazing altered space I had with him, and nothing I can do can get it out of my head. And, I saw him for the first time in years last September, and he randomly gave me a book on wiccanism, which isn't my cup o' tea or his either, but there was a chapter on sex-magic, and I started wondering.

You all have mentioned intensity and devotion; are there any other aspects between bdsm and spirit, however defined?

Have we had only subs respond?