My Master is Wiccan and he is also familliar with many shamanic practicies. He brings a lot of this into our scenes and it is truly amazing how he can get me to immediately calm down and focus through a few flicks of the wrist. I have never been one to embrace meditation, as I cannot seem to calm my mind down enough, but Master has the ability to dissassociate my mind from my body for a few moments. While these OOBEs are very new and scary to me, I have read in books where these altered states of consciousness are very much like Eastern practices of yogis and so forth. My Master has always lived a very sensous (as in usage of the senses) life, and I am grateful that we have the connection that we do. I would definitely agree that there are meditative and other aspects of BDSM that would fall into the sex magic realm. Especially for the natural Wiccan earth magiks. I can always get more specific info from him to share if you really want it, buDdha...